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Apples Safari Browser and MS Proxy/ISA - NTLM Authentication Issue

Asked by: Mr-Stabby

I have just discovered that Apples Safari Browser does not support NTLM, the authentication protocol that Microsofts ISA Server uses.

What i want to know is, are there any browsers that you know of (like Safari) that take their proxy settings, including the username and password from the network preferences rather than having their own proxy settings inside the program, but ALSO support NTLM.

Or if you can find a way of getting Safari to work with NTLM, that would be even better.

I have tried Authoxy, but its too tedious to keep working.

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2004-02-26 at 02:08:20ID20898591
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Answers

 

by: weedPosted on 2004-02-26 at 10:16:28ID: 10462385

Mozilla post 1.4b supports NTLM though you'll have to try it and find out whether itll take proxy info from the Network control panel.

 

by: Mr-StabbyPosted on 2004-02-26 at 15:15:28ID: 10465124

Hi, thanks for the reply.

I have already tried Mozilla and it keeps the proxy settings inside the program. I want them to take it from the control panel, as, having a laptop i go to many different networks with different proxies, and the location facility in OS X is really handy, its just when browsers keep the settings in the browser itself, it dosen't actually switch over properly

 

by: weedPosted on 2004-02-26 at 15:31:24ID: 10465234

Nothing else i know of that pulls its info from the network CP.

 

by: Mr-StabbyPosted on 2004-02-26 at 15:51:17ID: 10465338

Annoying. I'll just have to wait to see if Apple pull their finger out and add NTLM support.

Thx anyway.

 

by: weedPosted on 2004-02-26 at 16:01:42ID: 10465411

They actually did. One of the Safari public betas had rudimentary NTLM support but they decided it wasnt worth finishing so canned it in the final release.

 

by: Mr-StabbyPosted on 2004-02-26 at 16:03:53ID: 10465421

I did hear this actually!

Could you tell me which version it was, and is it worth using. Because i'll use anything to get rid of Internet Explorer!

 

by: weedPosted on 2004-02-26 at 16:12:05ID: 10465466

Dont remember which version. Not available from Apple anymore and it was VERY rudimentary support. Not even sure it would do what youre after.

 

by: Mr-StabbyPosted on 2004-02-27 at 05:26:49ID: 10468927

thanks anyway, you've been a real help

 

by: heteronymousPosted on 2004-03-26 at 08:18:55ID: 10688378

There is a working solution to this. Even as of 10.3 and the latest Safari, unfortunately, a Mac has difficulty with the MS NTLM authentication.

There is a solution that works, and works well.
The solution requires some work in the command-line, and involves a Python script, but you don't need to compile anything. Download the script, backup the default config file, and then customize the config file to match your Proxy server.

http://apserver.sourceforge.net/

The key settings in the config file will be information you'll need to get from your IT people managing the Proxy server. Namely: username (should match up with what they have config'd for you), domain/workgroup, and the IP address and port used for the Proxy server

Last thing you'll need to do will be create a startup item for the script, so that it runs at every bootup.

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/macosx/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/index.html

which is described as "depricated", but even Apple is still using it as of 10.3 so that will work fine for you, it's how we did it.

FWIW, Apple points you to this instead:

http://developer.apple.com/documentation/macosx/Conceptual/BPSystemStartup/index.html

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