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Accessing files on a Mac from Windows in dual boot

Asked by: zejarra

Hi - I am about to install Windows 7 on a macbook which has Snow Leopard on it , via boot camp. My concern is that i still want to able to access pictures and documents on one OS when booted into the other one - Is that going to be possible or does the different partition render the other part unreadable -
I hope this makes sense!

Thanks

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2009-11-04 at 10:31:21ID24871895
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Apple Operating Systems

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Snow Leopard (OS 10.6)

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Windows 7

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Answers

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 10:42:09ID: 25742424

Have you considered virtualization with, say VMWare Fusion instead? Much more convenient:

http://macwindows.com/winintelmac.html

See also:  http://macwindows.com/winintelmac.html#bootcamp

 

by: zejarraPosted on 2009-11-04 at 11:00:14ID: 25742626

Yes - i have and i use i VMWARE  but wanted to know about the functionalities of dual booting because virtualisation has its drawbacks, particularly when troubleshooting with networks - ie the Windows NIC gets allocated an odd IP address, but not just for that reason, i just wanted to see how it compares to dual booting.

 

by: stephenbyrdPosted on 2009-11-04 at 11:34:48ID: 25742989

Since they're on 2 different partitions your answer is no.  The other OS has not booted and therefore you have no access to those other files.

 

by: stephenbyrdPosted on 2009-11-04 at 11:37:11ID: 25743009

On a side note, if you change your NIC type in Fusion from NAT (private IP) to Bridge it will issue a local network IP.  This may only help you for part of your networking issues, but I always run in bridged mode because of that :)

 

by: younghvPosted on 2009-11-04 at 12:07:37ID: 25743364

If this were a pure Windows question, I would say to have 3 partitions.
1 for each OS and 1 for just data.
If you are storing your pictures and documents on the 'data' partition, they would be accessible by either OS.

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 12:24:43ID: 25743531

The data partition would have to be FAT32 for both OS's to be able to read and write to it without the use of third party software.

Mac OS can read Mac Format, FAT32 and NTFS
Mac OS can write to Mac Format and FAT32, but not to NTFS

Windows can read and write to FAT32 and NTFS, but not Mac Format

 

by: zejarraPosted on 2009-11-04 at 12:31:41ID: 25743582

Hmmm - all interesting stuff thanks stephen -  Younghv, if i were to make 3 partitions , which program do i use, still BootCamp? will it still be able to be read by the MAC?

 

by: stephenbyrdPosted on 2009-11-04 at 12:39:43ID: 25743653

I don't think you're able to do this natively within OS X.  I have a boot camp partition created and the only option for creating further partitions on an exisiting OS X partition is a MAC OS EXTENDED partition and FAT32 isn't an option.  Conceiveably, you could erase all partitions, then use something like partition magic to create a FAT32 partition (which will be shared.)  Then, run your OS X install as normal and then use boot camp to create the windows partition.  

 

by: younghvPosted on 2009-11-04 at 12:48:55ID: 25743743

Whoa Nellie!
Time for me to back off.
I don't even know what "BootCamp" is.
For all Windows-based computers, I use "Boot-IT NG" - which has been flawless for me and several of our top Hardware Experts.
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:25:12ID: 25744107

If you read the tip at this page:  http://macwindows.com/winintelmac.html#bootcamp

you will see the trick to reading the Mac partition while booted from Windows is to install MacDrive 6 under Windows.

If the Win partition is FAT 32, you will be able to read and write to it while booted from OS X.

If the Win partition is NTFS, then you will need the freeware MacFuse installed on the Mac side:

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifehack/how-to-read-and-write-ntfs-windows-partition-on-mac-os-x.html

 

by: stephenbyrdPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:31:17ID: 25744161

strung, that certainly is another option.  I've never used MacDrive under Windows, so I'm assuming it's safe to attach the partition without Windows trying to intialize it?

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:33:14ID: 25744178

I don't understand what you mean by: so I'm assuming it's safe to attach the partition without Windows trying to intialize it?

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:35:16ID: 25744196

 

by: zejarraPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:42:26ID: 25744273

Geez - this all sounds long winded, i wish my clients would stick with Windows instead of moving to Macs because its in fashion (Trust me, its not for the better reasons!) - though i appreciate all your comments!
i may resort to having an external USB drive with all the documents to which the mac could connect to in either Mac or Windows mode. Both should be able to read it right ?

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:45:39ID: 25744296

I must say I have done both and much prefer VMWare. It's just about transparent.

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:48:38ID: 25744324

It's really not that complicated.

Out of the box, either OS can read the other's partition, but not write to the other partition.

The freeware software at my earlier link will allow the Mac OS to write to the NTFS partition, and MacDrive will allow Windows to write to the Mac partition.

 

by: stephenbyrdPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:48:50ID: 25744327

Both can read as long as it's formatted as FAT32.  You can install macfuse to read NTFS but the MAC will read FAT32 natively.

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 13:49:39ID: 25744333

If you do want a three partition solution, here is one:  http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071101065229169

But again, unless the third partition is FAT32 (the common format), it won't solve your problem.

 

by: zejarraPosted on 2009-11-04 at 14:29:55ID: 25744756

Ok , thanks for this , final question - I use VMWARE myself and like its easy use, save for the networking i was on about, but will try the bridged solution for that - do you agree that is probably the best virtualisation software for the MAC?

 

by: strungPosted on 2009-11-04 at 14:57:56ID: 25744990

Yes

 

by: stephenbyrdPosted on 2009-11-04 at 15:11:33ID: 25745130

I second that.  Beats Parrallels hands down.

 

by: younghvPosted on 2009-11-04 at 16:15:20ID: 25745607

I don't think any data should be stored on an OS partition - regardless of OS.
Too many downsides and no upside (that I can think of).

A third 'Data' partition - to include an External Drive (formatted FAT32) make all data read/writeable by either OS.

 

by: zejarraPosted on 2009-11-08 at 11:11:17ID: 31650129

Guys - thanks for all your help - i thought i awarded the points a couple days ago but got a reminder so sorry it seemed like i was ignoring you!

 

by: younghvPosted on 2009-11-08 at 11:27:26ID: 25771517

Yippee - look out you Apple guys:

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