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Will Goldmine 4.0 run on Windows server 2008 64 bit system?

Asked by: Tim_233

I am upgrading my servers to Windows 2008 which is 64 bit.
Will I have any problems running my old Goldmine 4.0 program on it/
I also will be up grading cleints to Vista 64

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2008-12-13 at 09:57:10ID23982319
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Answers

 

by: GLComputingPosted on 2008-12-13 at 10:08:45ID: 23164814

According to their site: Although GoldMine was designed to run on a 32-bit server, it can support a 64-bit server if the application is set to run in downward compatibility for a 32-bit.... and the APIs definitely don't support x64

So... not really. In fact the sys requirements for the current versions don't even list Windows 2008 or Vista x64 at http://www.frontrange.com/ProductsSolutions/detail.aspx?id=7498

Maybe look at moving to ACT! 2009, which does support Windows 2008 and Vista x64?

 

by: stevengraffPosted on 2008-12-13 at 12:47:07ID: 23165388

Tim,

You probably already know this, but GoldMine 6.x and prior are no longer supported, and won't be tested by the software's publisher, FrontRange on any future versions of Windows.

Now, then, to answer your question... my guess is "probably," depending on what you mean by "run."

First, there were two versions of 4.0: standard (dBase), and Enterprise (SQL).

In the case of dBase, GoldMine wouldn't actually be doing any running on your server anyway. If you're talking about Windows Server 2008 being a file sharing repository, so that the client computers could run the program and share files, then there's little doubt that GoldMine would, in fact, "run."

In the case of SQL, again, GoldMine doesn't really do any "running" on the server itself. It has a file-sharing component which undoubtedly 2008 would not conflict with, and a client/server SQL relationship. Version 4.0 of GoldMine, I believe, was designed for an older version of SQL, either SQL 7.0 or SQL 2000. But that issue is largely independent of your server (Windows 2008) question.

Clients running Vista 64 is another issue. Most 32-bit programs will be OK on a 64-bit system... your results may vary.  I have run GoldMine version 4.0 on a 64-bit machine running 64-bit Windows Server 2003, so I know it's possible. But I haven't done extensive testing. And installation could be a trick -- or it could go smoothly.

If you're trying to protect an investment (i.e. not spend additional cash) it's worth testing. If you do run into too many problems there might be an upgrade path (to GoldMine Premium Edition) that would work for you at a reasonable cost.

Please post back with your results!

btw, what version of GoldMine do you have? Help | About, then look at the serial number... if it begins with E you have the Enterprise version, SQL capable. If it begins with D that's dBase. If you have Enterprise, that's no guarantee that it's actually running in a SQL configuration... the E license permits both.

 

by: Tim_233Posted on 2008-12-13 at 13:18:57ID: 31525745

Thank you,  this is exactly what I was looking for, (and wanted to hear)
Goldmine version is 4.00.9922 Sept 1999. The serial number begins with D so I guess I don't have to worry obout the SQL.  Not sure how you mean tricky install.  I was just planning on copying over the directory and sharing it with drive letter maping.  Clients just point to the .exe on the G: drive and it "runs".   sound good?

 

by: Tim_233Posted on 2008-12-13 at 16:25:33ID: 23166053

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for, (and wanted to hear)
Goldmine version is 4.00.9922 Sept 1999. The serial number begins with D so I guess I don't have to worry obout the SQL. Not sure how you mean tricky install. I was just planning on copying over the directory and sharing it with drive letter maping. Clients just point to the .exe on the G: drive and it "runs". sound good?

 

by: GLComputingPosted on 2008-12-14 at 00:45:38ID: 23167046

Means the server should be ok, but the clients may not work

 

by: stevengraffPosted on 2008-12-14 at 21:41:56ID: 23171356

I was just planning on copying over the directory and sharing it with drive letter maping. Clients just point to the .exe on the G: drive and it "runs". sound good?

 Yes, this is the correct approach to take. With the dBase product you're not doing client/server computing. The "fat" client essentially loads the exes and dlls over the network into local ram for execution. The server is a mere file repository. I've even seen this work with Linux servers.

GoldMine 4.0 was a fairly simple program, with no true installation needed. Copy/Paste is fine... one of the snags trying to install the old software on a new operating system has been with the InstallShield installer. Even though GoldMine might be fine in the environment once the files are in place, the installer would choke on the operating system. But if you copy/paste, you avoid the installer, and I'd be surprised if this doesn't work.

I'd also be surprised if it fails to work on your clients... I have seen it work on Win Server 2k3 64 bit and Vista 32 bit. The only permutation I've not directly tested, then, is Vista 64 bit.

The only other "quirk" here is the Borland database engine. It's "normal" location could be g:\goldmine\setup\bdeshare. If it is, again, you're probably all set. If not, it could also be on local machines (though unlikely). As with GoldMine itself, the BDE can be placed wherever you want it without any kind of real installation.

The reg key for the BDE is hlkm/software/borland. If it's balky you can delete it and GoldMine will re-create it for you next time you run it.

Good luck,
Steven

 

by: Tim_233Posted on 2008-12-15 at 08:11:46ID: 23174731

Thanks a lot Steve,  this is all good information.  My Hardware comes in next week so I let you know how it goes.  
Tim

 

by: shake74Posted on 2011-02-02 at 08:16:31ID: 34773201

This discussion is over 2  years old. But I'm running into same issue. It does not work. Goldmine will not install on Server 2008 R2.

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