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LISP Sort

Asked by: Aanvik

How can I sort a list in LISP without using inbuilt sort function. I would like to write my own Sort function which can take a list of numbers or list or words and will sort them.

can someone  please help

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Answers

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 13:52:03ID: 24513885

You can recursively sort it comparing car and cdr and reversing the order if car > cdr

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 13:54:11ID: 24513893

Thank you for your reply,

Can you please provide an example for the following list... or guide me where to look?

(97 86 45 23 87 43 26 72 35 64 63 54 89 43 89 56)

(verify your program on the following inputs)

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 13:58:13ID: 24513907

Hi Aanvik, EE rules do not allow us to answer these questions with complete code, if it appears to be homework related. So please show me your starting point from which I will work from to get you a solution.

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 13:59:41ID: 24513916

Sounds good.. I will do some homework and then we can fix this issue.

Thank you

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 14:04:12ID: 24513938

This is what I have.. It sort numbers but don;t work with words.

(defun SortItems (list Order) 
  (let ((result (copy-seq list)))
    (loop for i from (1- (length result)) downto 0 do
        (loop for j from 0 to i
            when (funcall Order (aref result i) (aref result j))
               do (rotatef (aref result i) (aref result j)) ))
    result))	
 
(SortItems #(97 86 45 23 87 43 26 72 35 64 63 54 89 43 89 56) #'<)
                                              
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by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 14:22:15ID: 24514005

Which dialect of Lisp are you using? Can you use the string< function?

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 14:30:04ID: 24514040

never used string<

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 14:36:12ID: 24514067

In Common Lisp you can use:

1) string< or string-lessp for string comparisons
2) You can use write-to-string to convert a number to a string

So if you want your algorithm to sort lexically, rather then numerically, you may want to add code to convert to strings

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 14:38:29ID: 24514074

OK. As I told I need to search google to see how I can do this. I am  very new to this.

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 14:45:10ID: 24514096

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 15:28:39ID: 24514224

tried.. But no luck. Is there any way you can provide me some more details

Thank you.

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 15:30:09ID: 24514225

This is how I am planning to archive this.

function MySort (L)
begin
	if L contains at most one element then return L
else
	randomly select an element e from L
	let L1 be a subset of L in which all elements are smaller than e
	L2 be a subset of L in which all elements are equal to e
	L3 be a subset of L in which all elements are greater than e
return append ( MySort (L1), L2, MySort (L3) )
endif
end function MySort

                                              
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by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 16:30:11ID: 24514367

Language aside, which sorting algorithm have you chosen to implement? This looks like Quicksort.

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 16:31:35ID: 24514370

That's correct. Quicksort, Lacking Syntax though.

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 17:01:12ID: 24514451

OK. Well break it down into the sub-sections you need to implemented

1) Code to choose an element from a list. For simplicity you can just choose the 1st element, that is your pivot point
2) Use the pivot value to create list of elements < pivot
3) Use the pivot value to create list of elements > pivot
4) Append / recursively call quicksort with left list, pivot and right list

Get a start, and I will help you. Like I said, I cannot start the code for you.

Take a look at remove-if and remove-if-not functions, those will help you construct the left and right lists. Also look at lambda, it can be used for the predicate for remove-if/remove-if-not

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 17:03:11ID: 24514458

If it is too much to figure out, write a simple function to return all elements in a list that are less than a given value. Create building blocks that you can understand and easily test, then put them together into the larger function.

(remove-if #'(lambda (a)(< a 3)) '(0 1 2 3 4 5 6)))

                                              
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by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 17:10:27ID: 24514469

Thank you. Let me try that.

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 17:21:12ID: 24514485

Not trying to be hard on you. I have written a quicksort for this solution, so I am referring to it as we go. Unfortunately I cannot post it in completion, since the goal is to help you learn. So feel free to ask as many questions as you need, and I will help you if you get stuck. Like I said, lets work it in phases if that helps.
 

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 17:26:17ID: 24514495

sure, I will. And thank you for your support so far

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 18:09:10ID: 24514576

So far I am here.. . Am I going in correct direction?

(defun MySort(myList)
	(t (append (MySort(cdr(remove-if #'(lambda (a)(< a (CAR myList))) myList)))) 

                                              
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by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 18:16:02ID: 24514586

Also got this but looks like I am missing how to use if for string. write-to-string.

(defun Mysort (lis) 
	(if (null lis) nil
  	(let* ((x (car lis)) (r (cdr lis)) (fn (lambda (a) (< a x))))
    	(append (Mysort (remove-if-not fn r)) (list x)
      		(Mysort (remove-if fn r))))))

                                              
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by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:07:25ID: 24515127

Well, in you lambda function, you are using < which is for numerics. You can use string< or string> for string comparisons.
So in your code above, try just replacing < with string<

(fn (lambda (a) (string< a x)))

                                              
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by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:17:40ID: 24515153

Thx, this works for string.. but Not working for Numbers.

I changed the code a bit but looks like I am missing something,

(defun Mysort (lis) 
        (if (null lis) nil
        (let* ((x (car lis)) (r (cdr lis)) (fn (lambda (a) (string< (write-to-string a) (write-to-string x)))))
        (append (Mysort (remove-if-not fn r)) (list x)
                (Mysort (remove-if fn r))))))

                                              
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by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:23:25ID: 24515164

So the requirement is it should sort mixed lists of strings and numbers?

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:24:58ID: 24515168

Not mixed but 1 function to sort both type of list... though the list will be either numbers only or string only. no mix.

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:49:35ID: 24515211

Well, this is one reason I don't care for Lisp. Easy things that Perl/Python do automatically require odd conversions, etc. You can write conditional code that checks for the types of arguments, then calls write-to-string only on non-strings (call it on a string and it will add more quotes around an existing string).

I found that you can use:  (format nil "~a" x)
For any type of x and it will produce a string. So you could write:

(let* ((x (car lis)) (r (cdr lis)) (fn (lambda (a) (string< (format nil "~a" a) (format nil "~a" x)))))

                                              
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by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:52:37ID: 24515222

Cool. That solved the problem.

Thank you.

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:53:17ID: 31587175

Thank you for all your help.

Really appreciate it.

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:55:23ID: 24515229

Great. Can you post the final solution, just for PAQ purposes? This was fun, its been years. Bring on the next question. ;)

Here was my version, but it works only on numbers. I did not add the conditional format conversion.

(defun quicksort (L)
   (if (null L) nil
       (let ((pivot (car L)) (rest (cdr L)))
       (append
          (quicksort
               (remove-if #'(lambda (a)(string> a pivot)) rest)
          )
          (list pivot)
          (quicksort
               (remove-if #'(lambda (a)(string< a pivot)) rest)
          )
       )
       )
   )
)
                                              
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by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:56:38ID: 24515232

Sorry I meant mine only works for strings, so I would just patch in the (format ...) function to work for both.

 

by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:58:00ID: 24515238

here's the final solution.

I was wondering if I can add another param which could be > or < and based on that it will sort the list asc or desc?

(defun Mysort (lis) 
        (if (null lis) nil
	(let* ((x (car lis)) (r (cdr lis)) (fn (lambda (a) (string< (format nil "~a" a) (format nil "~a" x)))))
        (append (Mysort (remove-if-not fn r)) (list x)
                (Mysort (remove-if fn r))))))

                                              
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by: AanvikPosted on 2009-05-31 at 22:59:08ID: 24515246

fyi, another LISP question is already out there, would appreciate if you can take a look at it.

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