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How do I optimize an Access to MySql join?

Asked by: dovidf

I have a MySql to Access 2003 table join that is very slow.

I need to bring up appointment history from a mysql table that applies to a customer in the table. The table doesn't contain the kept status. The kept status is in an access table. The Access generated join is very slow.

How can it be optimized?

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2009-09-23 at 08:47:04ID24755377
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Answers

 

by: cwood-wm-comPosted on 2009-09-23 at 12:58:45ID: 25407245

You should index every field that is part of the join (on both tables), every field used in sorting, and every field used with criteria. Indexing can GREATLY speed joined queries.
-Chuck

 

by: dovidfPosted on 2009-09-23 at 15:21:07ID: 25408602

That's a general approach to speeding up queries for relational databases.

It doesn't relate to the particular issue of the MySql and Access interaction.

In SQL server I could create a subset of the SQL server table using a stored procedure. I was looking for something like that for Mysql.

 

by: cwood-wm-comPosted on 2009-09-23 at 15:23:40ID: 25408626

So, indexing the fields didn't help?
-Chuck

 

by: dovidfPosted on 2009-09-23 at 15:48:16ID: 25408802

I'm not the DBA and indexing won't prevent the client side load caused by the Access part.

 

by: virmaiorPosted on 2009-10-02 at 05:33:44ID: 25477226

you should create a copy of the table in access and join against that instead of the original.

the odbc connector operates somewhat slowly, so it is unwise to join tables across it.  this is the probable source of your slow query.

 

by: Arthur_WoodPosted on 2009-10-02 at 06:58:23ID: 25477923

Creating a local copy of the MySQL table, and then joining your real Access table to that local copy may speed up your query, but it has the MAJOR drawback that the local copy, being a 'copy', will not stay in-sync with the REAL MySQL table, from which the copy was made.

AW

 

by: virmaiorPosted on 2009-10-02 at 07:12:39ID: 25478068

what arthur says would be correct -- if you created the copy once and let it go stale.

by and large, it is faster to:
completely copy the TABLE into a local copy , then JOIN, and output
vs
 JOINing remotely.


probably, the ideal solution is to do a periodic syncronization (say 1x / hr).  The obsession with live data is broadly based on mistaken assumptions.  In reality, most "live" data sources utilize a caching mechanism similar to this.

One way to avoid any problems is to have a trigger method of some sort.  i.e. if you have a timestamp field, you can look at the timestamp to see if you need to refresh the local copy.


....
the basic problem is that the access JOIN cannot use the MySQL index when JOINing remotely, so it essentially does a table scan for each row in your table.  A different approach would be to upload the statuses into a MySQL table and perform the join there.

 

by: dovidfPosted on 2009-10-02 at 07:37:07ID: 25478315

The main table is huge and as indicated it would require code to keep in sync.

With SQL server one could make a stored procedure which would create a local recordset which would be a passthrough query in Access. This would be a join parameter based query that picks a small subset directly from the MySql side and joins this small result set with the Access table.

Is something like this possible with MySql?

 

by: virmaiorPosted on 2009-10-02 at 07:51:34ID: 25478474

i am not aware of anything quite like that in MySQL...

you could create a copy of just the parts that match the join condition  (which seems to be the same as the SQL server feature you are describing).

alternately, you could upload your local table and perform the query entirely on the MySQL server.

 

by: dovidfPosted on 2009-10-16 at 11:04:47ID: 31642222

I believe that a stored procedure approach would work like it does in SQL server.

The solutions provided would work but require some possibly complex synchronization method.

The commenters were quite knowledgeable and provided good insight

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