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what happens when shutting down oracle on nt server

Asked by: livni

I have Oracle 7.3 running on an NT 4.0 Server.
When I shutdown my server or stop the service - what happens ?
Is it making a shutdown immediate process or shutdown abort ?
If it is shutdown abort - how can I make it try shutdown immediate first ?

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Answers

 

by: hvetsaPosted on 1998-11-23 at 15:04:33ID: 1082718

When you shutdown or stop service the Instance will shutdown normal.

If you want to do immediate or abort you have to use svrmgr23 from the command line. The option NORMAL is default

There is no shutdown immediate first and shutdown abort next. All the three option do the same but differently. The order of preference should be
NORMAL
IMMEDIATE
ABORT( Only with an expert advise like Oracle Tech Support)


 

by: junfebPosted on 1998-11-24 at 05:45:26ID: 1082719

Nope! The answer is incorrect. When you shutdown the services, it does a shutdown abort in the back end. You'll find that it does an instance recovery on startup. This is what I implemented to shutdown gracefully.

1. From svrmgrxx do a shutdown immediate or shutdown .
2. Once you have done this you can stop the services.

Hope this helps.

 

by: livniPosted on 1998-11-25 at 08:47:54ID: 1082720

According to junfeb's comment,
your answer is not correct.

This is what I heard too -
Shutting down the server (or the oracle service) will shutdown abort the instance.
The question is - How can I change it, so the service will try to make a
shutdown immediate before it stops (automatically, when I shutdown the server).


 

by: poncejuaPosted on 1998-11-25 at 09:01:44ID: 1082721

I found something I hope helps you.

To create an icon to start Oracle services and database:
1.  From the Program Manager, select a Windows group to put start/stop icons, such as 'Oracle for Windows NT'.  Click on that group to make it active.  
2.  From Program Manager toolbar menus:    
a.   Select File > New > Program Item
b.   Type the following in the 'Description' field: Start TEST
c.   Type the following in the 'Command line' field:
 c:\orant\bin\oradim73.exe -startup -sid TEST -usrpwd oracle -starttype srvc,inst -pfile c:\orant\database\initTEST.ora3.  Press OK.

To create an icon to stop Oracle services and database:
1.  From the Program Manager, select a Windows group to put the
    start/stop icons, such as 'Oracle for Windows NT'.  Click on
    that group to make it active.  
2.  From Program Manager toolbar menus:
    a.  Select File > New > Program Item
    b.  Type the following in the 'Description' field:            Stop TEST
    c.  Type the following in the 'Command line' field:            
  c:\orant\bin\oradim73 -shutdown -sid TEST -usrpwd oracle -shuttype srvc,inst -shutmode i  
NOTE:  Shutmode of 'i' configures Oracle for an immediate shutdown which will rollback uncommitted transactions and disconnect users.  
3.  Press OK.

 

by: livniPosted on 1998-11-25 at 09:46:02ID: 1082722

poncejua,
You are a great help!

Now...
Is there any way, to make this shutdown immediate happen AUTOMATICALLY
every time the server operator shuts down the server ?

 

by: poncejuaPosted on 1998-11-25 at 11:32:28ID: 1082723

Answer is too easy if you want to startup your database when you boot your machine. Also if you want to schedule startup / shutdown of your instances (using AT command).

It's difficult to answer if you can shutdown your instances every time you shuts down your server. Give me some time to research and I'll give you an answer.

Thanks.

 

by: frankrPosted on 1998-11-25 at 11:56:55ID: 1082724

Go to the following url and download the 'OracleSafeShutdown' utility for NT.  It will allow you to create a shutdown service for the database.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/orasupp/homefram.htm

I'm not using it, since the time required for instance recovery on our database is insignificant.  

The information that you essentially do a 'shutdown abort' is correct, in the sense that instruction is equivalent to a server crash.  As far as the Oracle server is concerned, you might as well be flipping off the power to the NT box.  Oracle really can't distinguish between the two when it restarts.

I traded some Email with the guy who wrote this service about 2 years ago.  Oracle doesn't officially support this utility (they DID conside doing so) because there's no way to guarantee it will work for every database.  NT allows 20 seconds for a shutdown operation to complete during an NT shutdown.  If it hasn't completed in 20 seconds, the OS shutdown continues without waiting for the service to complete.

If your database shutdown can complete in this time, then this might work well for you.  Don't forget, it'll be YOUR responsibility to test it whenever you do an NT or Oracle upgrade.

FWIW, I know of one DBA who tried this and liked it.

Final note: It doesn't work for the first shutdown - you have to install it, shutdown the NT server (Oracle crashes again), and it should work on the FOLLOWING NT shutdown to stop the database.

 

by: junfebPosted on 1998-11-25 at 13:13:14ID: 1082725

What I implemented was to schedule an offline backup, so I used a combination of at command, netstart, netstop and svrmgrxx.
 It was very easy to implement.

You could try what frankr suggests and the doco does say that oracle supports this utility from version 8.0.4. Still the time frame is only 20 seconds.

If you would like to have the batch file that ran at a scheduled time to bring down oracle, I shall post it.

Thanks.

 

by: junfebPosted on 1998-11-25 at 13:26:15ID: 1082726

Hey! Hey!
Here is an NT tip, I found - Why don't you try this with the Orasafe utility, Maybe this will
give you a little more time to do a clean shutdown .

 TIP :  How to alter the time it takes Windows NT to shutdown.

Edit: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\WaitToKillServiceTimeout (or add it as a REG_SZ)

This key tells the service control manager how long to wait for services to complete the shut-down request. The default is 20000 milliseconds.

You must wait long enough for the services to complete an orderly shutdown.

Tell me how you go.

Thanks.

 

by: poncejuaPosted on 1998-11-25 at 13:31:01ID: 1082727

Well done, junfeb !!!! Nice Tip !!!!

This question is supposed not to be so 'easy' as livni posted.
;-)

 

by: livniPosted on 1998-11-26 at 12:15:15ID: 1082728

I knew about this registry key,
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS URL!!!

Thank you very very very much!

love you all...
):-)

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