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Calculating table size without using user_tables or dba_tables views

Asked by: mfarid1

I would like to calculate the size of a given table without using dba_tables or user_tables. Also, is there a way to retrieve the information of how often a table is accessed?

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by: markgeerPosted on 2003-06-03 at 08:20:05ID: 8639505

You can use dba_extents to get the size of a table (it contains the blocks allocated to a table, but it does not indicate whether those blocks are used, partly full or empty).  Dba_table, all_tables and user_tables certainly have more precise information on table sizes, if your tables are analyzed regularly.  Can you tell us why you don't want to use the best source for this information?

If you want to estimate the size manually, and you know the number of records and the size (number of bytes) of each record, you can just multiply those two values.  Of course the actual size will always be larger because of some overhead space in each block.  Also,  unless you have pctfree set to 0 there will usually be some free space in each block as well.  If your application allows deletes, there will be additional free space where deletes occured.

 

by: Bigfam5Posted on 2003-06-03 at 08:22:59ID: 8639533

You can use DBMS_STATS package, specifically the GET_TABLE_STATS procedure.
If you are on 9i you can use DBMS_WM package to track all changes to the tables.  Though not entirely sure about SELECTs on a table.

see this link http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:::::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID:4529781014729

 

by: markgeerPosted on 2003-06-03 at 08:49:12ID: 8639801

To retrieve information on how often a table is accessed you would need to turn on auditing for that table.  Oracle does not capture this information by default.  Be aware that auditing has a performance penalty and can generate vast amounts of data that you need to manage.  If you collect this auditing data in the database (it can be collected in a file instead) you may fill up and/or fragment your SYSTEM tablespace if you do not manage it carefully.

 

by: myerpzPosted on 2003-06-03 at 09:12:57ID: 8640052

i) show the physical amount of space that a table currently occupies :-

select round(sum(bytes)/1024/1024/1024, 2)  Gigs
from   sys.dba_extents
where  segment_name = 'MY_TABLE';


ii) Use the AUDIT command to audit access to a table :-

http://download-uk.oracle.com/docs/cd/A87861_01/NT817EE/index.htm


as markgeer said, this has an overhead in that the audit data is written
to the SYSTEM tablespace. this can not be over-ridden.

You or your DBA's should manage this : the data shoould periodically be
moved elsewhere and/or removed.

 

by: mfarid1Posted on 2003-06-03 at 09:17:29ID: 8640087

We don't have access to dba_tables and user_tables isn't populated. We are not given this access. We have access to the view all_tables and it is populated. I have some ideas as to how I can the current used size of a table but would appreciate an example.

Thanks.

 

by: mfarid1Posted on 2003-06-03 at 09:32:06ID: 8640222

We also don't have access to dba_extents.

 

by: markgeerPosted on 2003-06-03 at 09:45:03ID: 8640361

The three views: dba_table, all_tables, and user_tables have exactly the same size information, so you can use all_tables to get that.  Here is a query that I use to get size information on tables:

select table_name, NUM_ROWS, BLOCKS +1 "Blocks",
EMPTY_BLOCKS "Empty", AVG_SPACE, pct_free, CHAIN_CNT, AVG_ROW_LEN "Avg sz",
to_char(last_analyzed,'MM-DD HH24:MI') "Analyzed",
tablespace_name
from all_tables
where table_name like upper('&table_name');

 

by: mfarid1Posted on 2003-06-03 at 10:12:16ID: 8640619

How can I get the size in Megabytes?

 

by: markgeerPosted on 2003-06-03 at 10:18:53ID: 8640683

Multiply the "Blocks" value by your db_block_size (probably 2k, 4k or 8k, but maybe 16k or 32k).  That will give you the value in bytes.  For Megabytes, divide that by 1,000,000.

 

by: mfarid1Posted on 2003-06-03 at 12:03:14ID: 8641620

How do I get the db_block_size? Is there a view I can query? Most of the database stuff is extremely restricted where I work.

 

by: markgeerPosted on 2003-06-03 at 12:12:22ID: 8641702

You can try this query:

select substr(name,1,30) "Parameter", substr(value,1,35) "Value"
from v$parameter where name like 'db_block%';

You may or may not have access to "v$parameter" though.

In most shops "the database stuff" is the responsibility of the DBA who does have access to this information.  That makes me wonder who's in charge of "the database stuff" in your organization?  Do you have a DBA in house, or not?  If yes, he/she should be taking care of this.  If not, your management better be aware of the risks of running Oracle without a DBA.

 

by: mfarid1Posted on 2003-06-03 at 12:27:19ID: 8641820

No, I don't have access to v$parameter. We have a DBA. That is why it is so restricted here. However, I think the restriction is a bit too much. Anyway, I don't think I get table sizes in my current situation.

 

by: schwertnerPosted on 2003-06-03 at 23:11:17ID: 8645456

Table sizes could be calculated!
Not only queried.
Estimate approximatelly the average size of a row in your table (take in account the empty colimn values). Use the query SELECT count(*)*average_row_length FROM table_name. The only obstacle here is to estimate row length which imply good knowledge of the table.

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