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How to patch an Oracle 8i server with multiple dbs, but keep ONE of the dbs on the old version?

Asked by: trojanguy1

I have 3 Oracle 8i database instances (8.1.7.0) on a server, all using the same oracle home. I've been asked to patch Oracle to 8.1.7.4, but only for TWO of the databases (they want me to keep the other db on 8.1.7.0). Is there a way to do this? Previously I've always patched Oracle and then ran the upgrade script(s) on each database on the box. If I simply DON'T run the upgrade script on one of the databases, will that database continue to function correctly, or is it more complicated than that?

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by: fim32Posted on 2004-02-09 at 15:06:44ID: 10316045

um, i don't think it works like that...

specifically, there are possible cases where the patched oracle binaries may require references to items in the database that are created by the upgrade script.

i would just duplicate the oracle_home and leave the older database on its own (presuming unix build).  i think on windows, you'd have to reinstall...

 

by: seazodiacPosted on 2004-02-09 at 15:38:47ID: 10316427

@trojanguy1:

I think you have a ALL or NONE situation here since all your Oracle instance are running on one Oracle home and they must be using the same Oracle binaries.
when you are patching, you are applying patches to Oracle binaries that will include all your instances depend on this binaries.

 

by: trojanguy1Posted on 2004-02-09 at 15:54:44ID: 10316630

Yeah, I kind of thought that is was all or none because they share the same Oracle home, and the binaries are changed. Can somebody explain this "multiple Oracle homes" thing and how it would work? I assume I'd need different listeners, but what else? In order to accomplish something like that, would I just shut down every instance and listener process, have the AIX admin copy the current Oracle home to another filesystem, and then have one instance looking at the other Oracle home via my environment variable?

 

by: fim32Posted on 2004-02-09 at 15:57:57ID: 10316670

pretty much.

obviously, the 1 instance will have nothing shared with the other 2, so it will require it's own listener (and port, but i'm sure it already has its own port?) and set of scripts to startup on reboot, if desired.  you shouldn't have to shut it down to copy over the binaries, as they're not changing.  but then, you'll need to shut down the one instance, and then adjust all the config files before you bring it back up on the other ORACLEHOME...

on solaris, there's also the /var/opt/oracle/oratab file, i would imagine something similar on aix?

 

by: seazodiacPosted on 2004-02-09 at 16:06:15ID: 10316770

@trojanguy1:--->Can somebody explain this "multiple Oracle homes" thing and how it would work?


You should say Mutiple Oracle home in Unix because it would make a heck lot difference in Unix and windows. In unix, you could, as you said, just copy over the Oracle_HOME to a new file system, and it's done. But in window, you have only to install another copy of oracle..

but You guys are NOT right about LISTENER process. in fact, One listener can Listen for multiple oracle_homes, especially they are in the same version.

remember Oracle is implemented as Processes, so LIstener process can listen at different ports for different oracle processes.

But in practice, It's recommended that you have a dedicated listener process for one oracle instance because sometimes, especially in a busy system, listener can get quite busy.....


good luck!

 

by: trojanguy1Posted on 2004-02-09 at 16:36:57ID: 10317146

Yes, this is on UNIX (AIX, actually). There is an /etc/oratab file that has the environment variables on it (I believe that's used for the dbshut and dbstart binaries, right?). From what I gather I will need to make a copy of the first Oracle home before patching so that I have /oracle_home_8170 and /oracle_home_8174 (just an example of filesystem names for simplicity). I know I would have to change the /etc/oratab file for "instance 3" to point to the 8170 home, and the other 2 instances to point to the 8174 home. What other config files that I'd need to change are you speaking of?

The listener stuff also confuses me (unfortunately I never ever had a class on Oracle networking). Can you use one listener.ora file and have different ports, or do I need to have a different listener.ora file for each different port?

 

by: seazodiacPosted on 2004-02-09 at 16:51:57ID: 10317328

--->Can you use one listener.ora file and have different ports, or do I need to have a different listener.ora file for each different port?

I think I said that in the last post, it's the best practice that you have a different listener for each different port, therefore for each different oracle instance.
(of course, you can have one listener process listening for different ports)

---->What other config files that I'd need to change are you speaking of?

in order to make it work for new ORACLE_HOME, you should change the Client tnsnames.ora file too, nothing else as far as I remember..

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