Question

Is it worth reindexing tables when the optimizer mode is set to rule based?

Asked by: praveen_katta

In oracle 9i or 10g,Is it worth reindexing tables when the optimizer mode is set to rule based?
Along with your opinion, if you can lead me to some oracle documentation that will be a plus.

Thank You
-PRaveen

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2009-10-16 at 10:27:23ID24818804
Tags

optimizer mode rule based reindexing

Topics

Oracle Database

,

Oracle 10.x

,

Oracle 9.x

Participating Experts
5
Points
500
Comments
10

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. MySQL reindex...
    Hi ppl, I am just wondering whether the MySQL table will need to do reindexing after a period of time? As far as I am concerned, POSTGRESQL will need to do this after to period of time to restructure the table index. I had browse through the net for the answer but it seems ...
  2. MSDE Database Reindexing
    Dear experts, I have a question regarding database query return times. I'm currently using VC++ 6.0 compiled under VC++.NET, and MSDE as my database engine. My problem is that I have a scheduled job that performs reindexing on my database table every night, but when this j...
  3. mysql reindex files
    I need to reindex a table as it has crashed because of power failure while running Optimizing nor repairing Doesnt work ? any ideas to fix this (errno: 144) when repairing | zm.Events | check | warning | Table is marked as crashed and last repair failed | | zm.Even...
  4. Reindexing MySQL database
    I'm not sure if I need to reindex MySQL, but it seems to be corrupted and is acting strange. I saw this on another answer posted, but I don't know what to do after I do a mysql -u username -p and I don't know the name of the database or the name of the table (tablename)? A...
  5. reindex DB job
    I have a reindexing job that keeps failing on SQL 2000. (I have over 30 databases on the server.) I also have a transaction log backup job which is also failing. how would you recommend me to troubleshoot and fix this? I am a very beginner level SQL person :) thanks a lot
  6. SQL Server 2005 - reindex
    Is it true that I need to reindex SQL2005 database frequently (eg daily), depending on how frequently the database is being access, database size and modification? ( no working experience for SQL2005 ) For Foxpro, I normally don't reindex my database so often, but pack maybe,...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: paquicubaPosted on 2009-10-16 at 10:55:04ID: 25591713

Rule-based? That thing is deprecated and no longer supported by Oracle. Who is trying to secure a job at your compnay dude?

The rule-based optimizer  doesn't use statistics about the index, so it doesn't know how many rows will be scanned, but if you feel that the index needs to be re-built because you have had massive updates | inserts  | deletes, then go ahead and do it to improve performance.

 

by: boriskalavskyPosted on 2009-10-16 at 11:21:47ID: 25591980

Yes, Oracle does use indexes with RULE and/or COST. The only difference is how it selects them and what would be selected.  In versions higher then 9i OPTIMIZER_DYNAMIC_SAMPLING defaults 1 In versions higher then 10g OPTIMIZER_DYNAMIC_SAMPLING defaults to level 2, but if you get it lower and delete statistics you can run RULE.

 

by: praveen_kattaPosted on 2009-10-16 at 11:37:37ID: 25592110

Thanks for your response. Wanted to confirm, If the indexes are rebuilt using online, does it slow down the select,insert,update and delete operations?  

 

by: boriskalavskyPosted on 2009-10-16 at 12:39:08ID: 25592613

online operation will impact performance of DML, but it will be only noticeable if you have huge volume of transactions.

 

by: markgeerPosted on 2009-10-16 at 13:21:40ID: 25593008

Yes, if indexes are rebuilt online, that will slow down other operations in the database at the time.

Whether rebuilding indexes is worthwhile or doesn't depend much on whether you use the rule-based or cost-based optimizer.  It depends on the kind of activity that has happened to the records in the table.  If any of these activities have happened, especially if they involve a significant percentage of the records in the index, then rebuilding the index(es) may help:
1. Updates that change the value of the indexed columns(s)
2. Deletes
3. Inserts of records that are *NOT* in the same order as the indexed column(s)

 

by: markgeerPosted on 2009-10-16 at 13:23:33ID: 25593018

Oops!  I missed the word "not" that I intended to add in my previous posting after "worthwhile or".

 

by: mrjoltcolaPosted on 2009-10-17 at 05:32:52ID: 25595755

Remember, rebuilding "online" is an Enterprise Edition feature.

I recommend you measure performance before and after rebuilding your index. Then let us know if it helped and decide whether to ever rebuild them again. :) 99% of the time I'll bet it is not the problem. Indexes are meant to be scaleable and not be rebuilt except in very specific cases (bitmap indexes after a large dml for example). I virtually never rebuild a B-Tree index.

 

by: harry_hendrataPosted on 2009-10-20 at 08:14:28ID: 25615020

Also, bare in mind, during rebuilt, the rowid may change.

 

by: markgeerPosted on 2009-10-20 at 08:27:14ID: 25615152

To: praveen_katta

We haven't heard from you now in a few days.  Have you tested your performance, then rebuilt an index or two and tested again?

You had also asked originally for some Oracle documentation on this subject, but Oracle documentation typically includes the "how to" do things.  It rarely includes a discussion of why to do a particular task, or of when to do one or another.

 

by: praveen_kattaPosted on 2009-10-23 at 10:50:47ID: 31642212

Great points.Thanks everyone for all your help in answering this questions.

-Praveen

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...