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XMLTYPE discussion

Asked by: Mr_Oz

Hi Experts,

I am doing some analysis on using XMLType vs CLOB.

What I am looking for is pros and Cons of using one vs the other...
i.e. size, performance, silly nuances, ease of use etc.

For now I am  retrieving the XML as a single document and not indexing it for any queries.

What is the impact of implementing XMLTYPE over CLOB if you really do not need the features XMLTYPE provides at this time, but maybe want to leave that option open for the future?

Please provide as much details and personal experience as you can.  Added bonus if you have tried to implement XMLType with Ibatis, and can describe your experience with that.

Note these XML Files can be rather large and the version of Oracle is 11g.

Thanks

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2009-11-06 at 11:13:01ID24878962
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by: sdstuberPosted on 2009-11-06 at 11:27:05ID: 25762260

with xmltype you know your content is valid, implicitly.  
<tag1>somedata</tag_1>  
is a valid clob, and certainly readable but its not correct, so it can't be stored in xmltype.

so, clobs are handy if you might need to store a document that "should" have been xml but for whatever reason isn't.

on the other hand,  if you store invalid data you will need to check for that when you read it.

if you ever parse the xml, you will need to convert it to xmltype, and you'll do it everytime if it's a clob which can be expensive if you're doing it a lot.



 

by: SCHUMI33Posted on 2009-11-06 at 11:27:06ID: 25762261

To keep this to the point my personal experience of using the two above depends on what you want to do with the data.

CLOB is best if you are keeping the data in a native Oracle database.  You can still set up a data connection via ODBC and export them via a view to use with a reporting app such as Crystal etc.

You can do similar with XMLType, but XMLType has to be set up correctly, the benefits of XMLType is you can use it accross different database platforms.  For example transferring the data between an Oracle 10G platform and SQL Server 2005 platform.

If you want to keep the data in its native database, use CLOB.

Hope this helps.

 

by: slightwvPosted on 2009-11-06 at 11:30:58ID: 25762301

Our system lives and dies with XMLTYPE.  The main advantage is you are guaranteed it is valid XML.  With CLOB you aren't.

We're on 11g and so far I'm really happy with it.  I haven't tested this in 11g but in previous releases Oracle had issues with large XML files stored in XMLTYPE.

I don't know this for sure but I think it had to do with loading it into  the DOM behind the scenes.  I would hope they had that fixed by now.

If you are NEVER going to take advantage of any of the features and don't care about valid XML, use CLOB.  Those have been stable for a long time.

Can't help with Ibatis so I'll have to pass up the bonus.  ;)

 

by: Mr_OzPosted on 2009-11-07 at 11:48:59ID: 25767742

thanks for the replies, are there any performance issues using  XMLType that any of you have noticed?

 

by: slightwvPosted on 2009-11-09 at 06:56:21ID: 25776394

None except for the ones I already mentioned.  Then again, I've not done any performance tests specifically between CLOB and XMLTYPE.  I'm sure there's extra overhead just not sure how much.

FYI:  You can add 'store as clob' to the xmltype definition and actually have it stored as a CLOB behind the scenes.

I'd suggest setting up a small test envrionment and testing with some of your data.

 

by: sdstuberPosted on 2009-11-09 at 07:13:02ID: 25776549

"are there any performance issues"

yes,  they are the same issues as using CLOB but backwards.

that is.  if you are parsing the clob for xml you should probably use xmltype.
if you are simply returning the entire document from the xml you should probably use clob.

the performance issues are in conversion from one to the other.
note, slightwv's suggestion of using "store as clob" will help with conversion from xmltype to clob.  on the flipside it makes parsing slower.




 

by: Mr_OzPosted on 2009-11-14 at 06:04:43ID: 25820769

thanks guys

 

by: Mr_OzPosted on 2009-11-14 at 06:07:55ID: 31651180

Thanks for you input guys and sorry for the delay in responding and awarding your points.

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