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Career in SAP? good or bad?

Asked by: nb27

Hi Experts,

I am working as a web developer for past 3 years with knowledge in HTML,ASP,SQL etc but feel that this has very little scope now, someone guided me about SAP, but I am not very sure about having a career in this. I have 2  choices for my long term career i.e to become a MS SQL server DBA or start into SAP. But I am little aprehensive about SAP as I don't know the future of it and moreover from where should I start. Does it have scope in Germany and India.

It would be great if you gurus can please guide me.

Thanks
nb

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Answers

 

by: Venturer58Posted on 2003-04-15 at 08:42:53ID: 8334595

I am currently an SAP Security Admin for a major pharmaceutical company, I was formerly a DBA Admin. First off, the pay is probably going to be a bit better, SAP professionals (at least where I live) are in demand, even in a struggling economy. A good foundation knowledge of databases is key to a good understanding of SAP. If you enjoy coding, you would probably enjoy the "Basis" aspect of SAP which is coding/database level back end type of work. If are interested in web dev. type of stuff, you could work with SAP's Workplace (Workplace is SAP's front end). You could also go into different application areas such as Manufacturing Resource Planning (MRP), Advanced Planning and Optimization (APO), or many other areas where you would be working with the software to support the employees in your company. The option are wide open, and it's pretty fun to learn.

As to where SAP is going... many large companies prefer SAP systems because it brings their IT infrastructure under one roof. ERP Systems, although expensive to implement can save companies billions in the long run. I believe ERP's or ERP hybrids will take over much of the industry by 2010.

SAP has it's global headquarters in Germany, so I'm sure SAP jobs are in demand over there, and most SAP software is built in Germany, then translated to english. I'm not sure how big it is in India.

Hope this gives you a bit of insight.
-Steve

 

 

by: _TAD_Posted on 2003-04-15 at 13:07:52ID: 8336316



What little I know about SAP you could fill a thimble with.  However this question intrigued me, so I thought I'd look at the responses.

What I don know about SAP was that it was originally developed in Germany in the late 1960's.

Obviously it's been around a while, and I do believe that the most current version is web enabled which means that it has kept up with the times pretty well.

For what's its worth, I think a career in SAP is pretty secure.  As long as you keep up with current SAP updates you won't have to worry about becoming a programming dinosaur who is stuck in a rut with some defunct knowledge basis.

 

by: nb27Posted on 2003-04-16 at 00:49:15ID: 8339298

Thanks a ton Steve and TAD for answering the question,

Steve, I donot enjoy much of coding to be true to you and moreover I am a mechanical production engineer somehow landed in web development,

1) I feel SAP will give me an opportunity to use my Production Engineering skills as well. What do you say?

2) I was thinking to start with ABAP 4 and then learn ALE workflow. Is it a good choice from future and current perspective?

3) Is it easy to get a first descent job after just doing ABAP and ALE myself at home without any proefessional exeperience in it?

4) To start with I was thinking SAMS ABAP 4 in 21 days book?Is that quick and easy way to learn.

5) Can you guide me please how to move forward?

All I can offer is a big thank you in return and 75 points for the questions. Looking forward to your informative and prompt reply like before.

Thanks again
Nitin

 

by: Venturer58Posted on 2003-04-16 at 10:29:20ID: 8342638

Nitin,

1. i'm not quite sure what you mean by "production engineering" - and i don't know much about engineering in general, or what you could do with it in SAP.

2. Definitely take ABAP courses, they will be a real plus in understanding how everything works. Also, i would recommend basic navigation courses so you get a feel for what the interface is like.

3. With Abap and ALE classes, you could probably land yourself a decent job. I would learn one or more of the application areas though, i never took any ABAP courses, but i have a good idea of how the business end of everything works.

4. i dont't know of any good abap books, i don't usually work with the code.

5. Courses, look into learning about SAP application areas, the more you can put on your resume, the better!

Hope this helps!
-Steve

 

by: cmouzoPosted on 2003-05-16 at 14:26:02ID: 8543519

Hi Nitin.
I have been a SAP R/3 basis consultant for the last 6 years so I can tell I know a litle bit of it.

SAP has become a comodity which means that every big company has it. So Everybody should know a litle of it.

Some tips

1.- SAP AG is the name of the german company that sells the product.
2.- SAP stands for Software, Aplications and Products in data procesing (in German of course).
3.- SAP R/3 is just the ERP product of SAP.
4.- SAP AG has also another products: SAP CRM (Custormer Relationship Management). SAP BW (Business Warehouse). APO (Advance Planner and Optimizer), SEM (Strategic Enterprise Management), among many others. Check www.sap.com.
5.- SAP R/3 includes all the backoffice parts that a company may need to run its business:
      FI - finnacial (Accounts payable, receivable, general ledger,etc)
      MM - Material Management (Purchasing, Inventory.etc)
      SD - Sales and Distribution
      HR  - Humman Resources
      PP - Plant Production
      PM - Plant Maintenance
      Basis - Systemen Admin.
      Abap - SAP programming language.
      Many other R/3 Modules
6.- You should do things that you enjoy, you are Production Enginneer, I recommend you to read about PP and PM before make a decision.
7.- My wife is an abap but she enjoy the thing.
8.- Latest R/3 version is 470 or SAP Enterprise.
9.- CRM and Public sector solutions are hot now.

Good Luck
Carlos

 

by: joe_devPosted on 2004-01-28 at 14:25:59ID: 10222632

SAP holds the majority of the market share in ERP solutions at over 30%, the rest belonging to Peoplesoft, BAAN, and JD Edwards.  I've been working with SAP for almost 5 years now and on top pf the standard modules there are even applications like Portals, which is a stand-alone single sign on web portal which ties into SAP R/3, your file system, timekeeping services, and can anything else that can connect via BAPI, OLEDB, etc.  I'm also a BW (Business Warehouse) Developer, which is SAP's stand alone OLAP Reporting system, and I'm somewhat of an ABAP programmer.   The point is that SAP really encompasses all of the technologies applied to all aspects of a business and its processes, which in turn translates into jobs for DBAs, Webmasters, Programmers, Data Architects, Security Experts, Industrial Engineers - you name it!

For a good overview on the ERP industry, look at: http://www.indiainfoline.com/cyva/erp/ar01.html

SAP is based in Germany, so the demand is there, but you'll be up against many gurus over there.  So goes the same for India, as they have mushroomed with crash-course training facilities, i.e., a lot of competition as well.

Anyway, HTH and good luck!
Joe

 

by: djedenPosted on 2004-02-10 at 07:31:00ID: 10322985

Hi nb27,

I was originally a project engineer in food manufacturing and was asked to head up the PM module of a SAP implementation. I did the PM courses and I've never looked back. I've now moved onto contracting and have been a consultant for the past five years. Once in, it can be very easy to learn new areas of SAP. I now specialize in security and authorizations and I do find that my PM knowledge is a big help. Also in 5 years I have learnt alot of the basis aspects and I know understand enough ABAP to be able to debug problems. My advice is look at what areas of business are your strengths and focus on learning that module. not everyone is SAP needs to be able to program it. Most projects use programmers to support the functional teams, so others can take care of the serious end while you look after configuring the business processes.

I also now that alot of companies are looking to outsource their SAP support services to India. India is definitely a growing market for people with SAP knowledge, though the pay rates are less, hence why companies like to use them over there.

Regards
DJEDEN

 

by: Hamzat57Posted on 2004-05-26 at 02:29:06ID: 11159823

Can anyone pleae advice me of any SAP schools in India, how long would it take to learn the skill sets.
Cost also.
Presently I  work for Delliote and Touche  here in USA and iIwant to make myself very valuable to them.
I intend to learn the SD MM and if possible HR modules.or( Even BW)
Any comments and hints are welcomed.

 

by: yuvePosted on 2004-08-28 at 01:00:31ID: 11919671

Hi,

There are three areas in SAP with which one can build a career. They are.

Functional Consultants - SAP has many modules like MM- Materials Management, FI- Finance & Inventory, SD - Sales & Distribution etc etc. Functional Guyz basically know the business process and how they are implemented in SAP software..Functional Guyz are very highly paid than anyone in SAP. These guyz have very good onsite chances. Basically people who have worked in Companies around 2 years on some particular domain like finance, production etc learn SAP modules and hit the SAP JOB market with a Bang.

Technical Consultants- These are the guyz who learn ABAP-SAP's propriteary programming language. They will have to program specific needs of the functional guyz in the SAP software.
These guyz have a good grip of the ABAP syntax, the Database tables and ways of quering them with SQL.  These guyz will be required a lot in a project.  Scope is also nice.

Basis Consultant-Basis guyz are those who maintain SAP db.  They will be instrumental in providing User rights.. basically they will do the DBA job.

Getting into ABAP will be easiest following by Basis & Functional

 

by: FAREASTKBPosted on 2004-11-30 at 19:42:36ID: 12712660

Hi  

It depends on how you see “career” … I have been working with SAP projects since 1996 and see many people come and go..

In general, it is still remain one of the most demanded professions in my region, Asia. And highest pay also, a 5 Years functional freelance can earn up to 500USD a date excludes expenses; A PM can get up 700USD.

My opinion on establish a career in SAP functional consultants, It does take more than knowing the “configurations”.. You have to know the industry processes also, High Tech mfg, Auto Mobile, Retails, Healthcare etc..  Since there are no much room for modifications,  you will found yourself  spend 50% of the time fighting your clients “Customer / Users”  to proof SAP is correct..  

I.e you should not change the purchase orders pricing..  You should have all the master data defined.. You should have all your products classify and naming conversion be agree by all others..  All sales are booked once they created a sales orders, MVG Cost will be change if they release a PO, and the CFO will know about the open AP online, The whole company will have its first integration and department have to talk to each others.. All because of you..  
This is where the challenges are able to survive to get those 5 years experiences and 500 USD a date..
Often clients paying Big Dollars for your service and they will make you work 12 hours a day.. .

Again , you have to be well experienced to get a Good Inhouse Post the quickest ways is to earn it from the consultants companies..    

 



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