Question

what video formats can Nero burn and does Nero adjust volume?

Asked by: nickg5

I've got Nero but it is not installed on my pc yet, it was bought in late 2008.
So, I do not know the version. I want to burn some videos but there seem to be so many different formats out there. I'm looking for the best quality as compared to the orginal video.
Would this be .avi   or some other format?
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Some of my videos were uploaded at different times and have different volumes. Does Nero adjust volume so all tracks play the same volume?

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by: ShineOnPosted on 2009-07-17 at 20:14:56ID: 24884633

The answer is a qualified yes.

It depends on the version you have.  If you post back with that info, we can tell you more.  There are "lite" versions that come with a CD or DVD burner and there are retail versions - and Nero 7 had 2 retail versions, Nero 7 and Nero 7 Ultimate.  Over the years Nero has added or enhanced functionality of their suite significantly.  Nero 5 was pretty basic, but Nero 7 has some DVD mastering capabilities and Nero 9 has a whole boatload of features.

Also, when you ask about what format it will burn video - do you mean what technology it will encode video in or what media it will burn to?

Nero 5 could do VCD and SVCD for CD playback in DVD players that could play those formats.  Nero 7 could, as I said, do DVD mastering and burn to DVD for playback in DVD players.  Nero 9 can also do BluRay.   As to re-encoding, Nero can do that, too, but which formats it encodes to depends on what codecs you have.  It won't re-encode to a proprietary codec format unless you buy that proprietary codec from the company that made the codec.  

It can do audio volume adjustment - I've done that with audio CD's anyway - where you set a level and it will try to keep the various tracks somewhat at the same format.  It's better to do that manually in my opinion, than to have the software do it for you.  Since they do it with audio tracks, I don't see why they wouldn't do that with avi tracks too.  You'd have to look at the docs to see.  

One thing I have always liked about Nero is the audio editing tools, where you can split larger audio tracks into multiple tracks, or change the volume, or have unique equalizer settings per track, or even add effects like reverb.   I don't have Nero 9 (yet, anyway) but it looks like they've come up with nifty video tools as well.

Again, all that depends on the actual version you have.

You can look at a version feature-comparison chart here: http://www.nero.com/enu/store-upgrade-center.html#tab2

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-17 at 23:27:12ID: 24885048

>> I'm looking for the best quality as compared to the orginal video.

Assuming you are not converting from a high quality source to a lower quality source ie DVD to SVCD and the settings you choose are enough to retain the original quality then you won't get higher resolution / audio or anything else because it will only be as good a quality as the original video source selected ( you will only be changing formats of the video in question )

As for what your version of nero supports ( as stated above ) depends on what version you have exactly.

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-18 at 00:01:18ID: 24885091

Nero Express is mainly used to burn video to DVD using Nero Vision.
Regardless of the video format.
Just to elaborate DVD video format is vobs ie mpeg authored to vobs.
So if you want to make a dvd
 avi will be converted to mpeg
WMV will convert to mpeg
all and any video will need to be mpeg so that it's re-authored to vobs ifo and bup files.
DVD only supports mpeg2
The only other option is to burn videos/audio as is to a DATA DVD or DATA CD in Nero or any burning software
Does Nero adjust volume so all tracks play the same volume?<< No.
to do that you have to remux the entire video.
Nero has a tool called the Nero wave editor but it depends on the version you have.
Audacity free tool does the same but audio only.
If you want to edit video /  convert to a better format then I can recomend Super video converter it's what you need to recode. convert and improve the video scale. flash to ~~~
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER
The best video quality is dependant on the video scale. If the video scale is only 320 x 240 and you go full screen it will pixelate.
mpg is a good quality.
quicktime is good quality but a difficult codec to play on other players.
Divx is is very good. But again difficult for universal players you'll need VLC which supports most video formats
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VLC_media_player

To cover all basis unless you have a full Version of Nero not an OEM version it may not install and use the DVD burner rom you have there unless it was bundled with it. , original equipment manufacture.
Ultimate Nero packs will install and work with all DVD burners it is not an OEM
Need to know anything else ?
Merete

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-18 at 00:14:21ID: 24885107

Merete must be following me lol

I dont use windows hardly at all now so am losing touch but agreed on vlc and there is also handbrake which I find easier over all

www.handbrake.fr

 

by: ShineOnPosted on 2009-07-18 at 09:32:12ID: 24886536

To add to what Merete said:

WRT VLC, it's great, but still needs to improve its subtitle support to include Advanced Sub-station Alpha fonts/karaoke effects.  It translates them to plain-text in whatever font you chose when you set it up, and can overlay one voice on top of another if more than one person is talking and the .ass subs have the two translations in different positions.

I prefer MPC Homecinema for Windows and SMplayer for Linux, both of which work well with .ass/.ssa.

Also, the current "standard" for non-DVD video isn't DiVX any more - it's MP4 / h.264/ x264 ( h264 is proprietary, x264 is open-source GPL) with AC3 (the DVD mandatory multichannel audio format codec AKA Dolby Digital).  If you downscale MP4 to the right aspect/bitrate you can play it on your video iPod, besides.

Also, for multi-track audio/subs the standard is to use Matroska containers... which gives you similar control over subs and audio tracks as what you have with DVD, in a non-DVD package.

Again, depending on the version of Nero you have, Your Mileage May Vary...  There are better products for DVD authoring and better products for re-encoding but they generally aren't free, and with Nero, you've got most of your bases covered...

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-18 at 09:38:31ID: 24886556

For audio I prefer apple lossless and for video I prefer matroska - for home cinema I use plex on OS X

 

by: ShineOnPosted on 2009-07-18 at 09:45:50ID: 24886576

I should've said "for video with multi-track audio/subs" when I mentioned Matroska containers.  (.MKV extension)

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-18 at 16:10:15ID: 24887666

Seasonal warnings are out for Swine Flu,  Malaria, Tuburculosis and of course Nero at all times of the year.
This overblown behemoth is responsible for more incidendal deaths of innocent bystanders who are victims of PCs being flung from multi-storey buildings by disgruntled Nero users. You have been warned!

You don't convert videos to anything before burning, just drop them into something like Final Burner and burn.

 

by: nickg5Posted on 2009-07-18 at 16:23:30ID: 24887739

no Nero..........?.........$%^&......!

adding points.......

When I said format.........I meant file extensions...............what file types should be downloaded.........and what file types will the end result be (or do all burners burn the same file type or is it different from burner to burner) so that they can be viewed on pc's, home DVD, car DVD?

I'm currently experimenting with Real Player and all it downloads is FLV.

 

by: nickg5Posted on 2009-07-18 at 16:39:01ID: 24887767

forgot to raise points

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-18 at 17:21:30ID: 24887856

Too much jargon on the Internet when it's a pretty simple standard:
When the various standards got together to establish the DVD standard so da things would play on all players (regions aside) they decided amongst other things on a codec and a resolution, and there's also a standard for the bitrate (how quick it grabs digital samples). There is only one standard resolution DVD standard: MPEG-2, Resolution 720 x 480 (NTSC) or 720 x 576 (PAL). That's the DVD resolution.
Now the problem is when you download a video of any format from the Internet it may not have the most important component of the standard, which is the DVD resolution. So you might get say a youtube video,which is only 320 x 240. But your DVD cannot work with that so it streeeeeetches it up to 720 x 480 so it will fill a TV screen -- and then it looks like Heinz soup. So always download movies that you intend to burn to DVD in the highest resolution possible. Youtube now has HQ (Hith Quality and
also 720p HD). Don't worry about the formats.

 

by: nickg5Posted on 2009-07-18 at 17:34:22ID: 24887880

I need to burn something and see what the results are.
I last burned some music maybe 5 years ago, with Nero and everything was fine, the disc played on the cheapest portable CD players you could find. I'm sure DVD is a different animal.
I've got a table top DVD recorder (people said that would be easier for VHS than using a computer) and a burner on my pc. I've got the dreaded Nero, version unknown, and future questions will be related to converting VHS to DVD and audio cassette to CD, maybe even vinyl records to CD, so if any of you know these subjects, the questions will be coming soon. But, I said that last year and never got started.

I'll load my Nero and report back with the version as some asked for and then see comments on that and then close this thread.

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-18 at 17:48:55ID: 24887916

For VHS to DVD get one of these and save yourself a lot of time and trouble (sepecially if the VHS is copy guarded, which is unreasonably these days as you shouldn't have to buy another format because the previous version is out-of-date.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-18 at 17:55:47ID: 24887925

Dat's not da link. Here's da link:  http://www.kaiserbaas.com/KBA03001_video_to_dvd_maker.html

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-19 at 00:30:09ID: 24888559

To save back tracking through the comments that don't really cover your question
what file types should be downloaded...Not answerable that's up to you
(2)
.and what file types will the end result be (or do all burners burn the same file type or is it different from burner to burner)<< all DVD combo burners work the same way yes, and using the bundled software such as Nero
When you open Nero select either CD or DVD from the top rom drive /  then select what type of disc such as>  data disc or audio disc, but note audio disc it's CDA not mp3.
When you select burn a data disc CD or DVD~> video or audio~< it retains the same format as on the hard drive
data audio CD discs are only playbale on supported mp3 players.
data DVD with video is not playable outside the computer unless you have a supporting DVD player
 There is DVD players that will play data dvd
(3)
If you select make a DVD
Nero Express then Nero Vision> make a movie> create a DVD Video then only video must be converted to mpeg2, nero will handle most formats but for avi and flash I suggested Super Video converter, pleaser refer to my previous fully explained comments as this is creates a true DVD playable on DVD players.
(4)
 so that they can be viewed on pc's, home DVD, car DVD?<< yes
(5)
I'm currently experimenting with Real Player and all it downloads is FLV.<< real player is no good unless you get RealPlayer® Plus burn your DVD video, because they are copyrights to Real, like quicktime.
http://upgrade.real.com.au/features/realplayerplus.html
You can't use Nero to make a DVD with Real formats, or quicktime formats.
 

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-19 at 01:20:59ID: 24888654

>> I've got Nero but it is not installed on my pc yet, it was bought in late 2008.

Fair enough - I normally tend to only use Nero more as a burning tool ie to burn data to a disc ( whether it be a cd or dvd or whatever.

>> So, I do not know the version.

As above would be good if you can post back with the version

>> I want to burn some videos but there seem to be so many different formats out there. I'm looking for the >> best quality as compared to the orginal video. Would this be .avi   or some other format?

As per your above comment here "'so that they can be viewed on pc's, home DVD, car DVD?"

If thats the case you would need to check what formats your dvd players ( your home dvd player and your in car dvd player supports ) thats if you wanted to use a format such as MKV ( matroska ) where as if you just converted them into a dvd format using dvd flick or otherwise assuming its burnt to a dvd disc thats a decent make ie TDK or otherwise then it would work across your pc, home dvd player and car dvd player ( because then it would be in a dvd format )

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-19 at 01:38:29ID: 24888687

For video conversion to a dvd format I either use DVD Flick ( which is free ) or Convert X to DVD which is a paid for piece of software

http://www.dvdflick.net/

http://www.vso-software.fr/products/convert_x_to_dvd/

For video conversions I tend to use handbrake ( there are a few other ones for windows as well )

http://www.handbrake.fr

For any video help I normally go to http://www.videohelp.com

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-19 at 02:06:19ID: 24888748

<To save back tracking through the comments that don't really cover your question>

My point exactly.

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-19 at 02:43:30ID: 24888824

fredshovel:
<To save back tracking through the comments that don't really cover your question>

My point exactly.

===========================================

My point as well but I was merely stating that personally ( everyone has there own opinions as I am sure you do ) that I prefer to use other utilities to do the conversion of video types before using something like DVD Flick or even Nero to burn the VOB ( DVD format video / audio ) to a dvd disc.

Hence the suggestion of dvd flick and if you wanted to convert wmv or another video format into a format that dvd flick or even nero could use then handbrake or the other above mentioned utilities could help you in doing so.

If you want to use Nero and only Nero then fair enough.

Also As I mention above because the asker was requesting something that would play in there home dvd player, car dvd player ( DVD format would be the best ) quality wise no it won't be as great as high def content but at least it will be compatable between the players and quality wise will be great enough to watch whether on a car journey or at home.

 

by: nickg5Posted on 2009-07-19 at 05:42:01ID: 24889228

I've got Nero 7 Essentials copyrighted 1996 to 2006 with Express 7, Showtime 3, Vision 4, Recode 2, InCD 5, Photoshow 4.

Good enough or too obsolete?

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-19 at 16:07:15ID: 24891514

Essentials is an OEM so you may not have all the tools but it will do.
I have Nero Ultimate 7 with Vision 4
nickg5: please read back through my comments I provided Super video converter to convert "other formats" to mpeg for Nero
use this for the DVD authoring
How to convert all video formats to DVD using Nero Vision 4
http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/125/59/

 

by: ShineOnPosted on 2009-07-19 at 16:23:49ID: 24891584

Is that what came with the PC/DVD burner?  If so, it might be able to burn video DVD format, but might not be able to convert stuff to DVD format, which as has been said several times previously, is a specific industry standard format.  

I also prefer tools like DVD Flick for converting downloaded videos to DVD and it works well with many formats - .AVI, .ASF, etc - but may not handle all formats.  I don't know if it's been updated to handle Flash video, for example - again, you'd have to check the documentation.  There are other tools that convert just about anything.   Many are not free.  Those that are tend to expect you to know what you're doing, so it's hard to recommend them.  Things like TMPGEnc, for example.

DVD Flick up- or down-converts the resolution to the DVD standard for you.  The tools that Nero 7 has do not, IIRC.

 

by: nickg5Posted on 2009-07-20 at 12:10:04ID: 24897967

Is that what came with the PC/DVD burner?
yes this came with the new computer: Nero 7

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-20 at 20:47:54ID: 24901200

Hello nickg5 thanks for coming back, I think your question has been fully covered now, a few comments not really associated with your problem but if you read through them you should find all the answers to your questions.
regards Merete

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-20 at 23:26:46ID: 24901654

Just as a side note @Merete or ShineOn how does Super compare with the likes of handbrake or any other free or open source video conversion applications / utils ?

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-21 at 00:51:12ID: 24901981

hmm, handrake have not tried it, from what I have read about it seems more work for the individual the articulate of video work.
 I like simple  and quick just to convert . That's all I can say.
http://handbrake.fr/
I used to use Gnot and virtual dub and VDmod and lots of others
Then discovered Super and found it meets my needs just to convert .MOV or .MOD or flash to mpg for DVD in Nero Vision.
Or to reduce the video scale for youtube or just to decrease a video size.
cheers

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-21 at 00:52:33ID: 24901987

BTW VLC does a good job of converting flash to mpg too.

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-21 at 01:16:44ID: 24902083

Hmmm, is  there an end to this or is it like in space, endless and nobody can hear you scream?

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-21 at 02:39:40ID: 24902546

>> BTW VLC does a good job of converting flash to mpg too.

How do you do that with VLC - have not known about this

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-21 at 02:56:32ID: 24902661

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-21 at 03:33:24ID: 24902854

Yes Merete that's an interesting theory: But can you please explain why you advise the author, who asked for a "suitable DVD format" to crunch his resolution to 320 x 240. This is totally incorrect advice. The video standard for DVD is 720 x 480 NTSC and 720 x 576 for PAL. Please, why do you keep advising to crunch the resolution to a display resolution that can never be recovered and that will look ridiculous on display screens designed for TV and DVD resolutions?

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-21 at 03:49:28ID: 24902945

Sigh !!
 there is no references to that here in this question Fred
My comment : 18/07/09 05:01 PM, ID: 24885091
The best video quality is dependant on the video scale. If the video scale is only 320 x 240 and you go full screen it will pixelate.

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-21 at 04:45:02ID: 24903357

>> I explained how I use VLC here in the first comment

doh - that serves me right for skim reading lol

>> The video standard for DVD is 720 x 480 NTSC and 720 x 576 for PAL.

If you left the dvd scale / resolution etc as it is as per above ( standard resolutions ) then if its the car dvd player it should automatically scale it for you to the size of the screens you have in your car and the same again for your TV.

So you should not really need to play around with resolutions afaik - correct me if I am wrong ?

 

by: nickg5Posted on 2009-07-21 at 06:29:24ID: 24904276

Not too much enthusiasm about Nero 7.
I may install it and download and burn a DVD and see the results.
Then upgrade to better software, etc.
I do have VLC media player.
And I saw "quick burning" etc. on my Real Player.
Having never done any of this, I will just try with what I have, and see the ease and quality and then adjust.
Ok, I see a minor debate on resolution.
And I see an implication that this thread is "burned" out?
Closing it shortly and if anyone wants to follow the experimentation and other questions related please do. I'll try to use the same zones though I do not find all of them when I open new questions.

 

by: gecko_au2003Posted on 2009-07-21 at 07:55:22ID: 24905242

If you can post with your results / findings and let us know what you think

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-21 at 15:03:38ID: 24909811


"Sigh !!
 there is no references to that here in this question Fred"

Yes it's in your link as posted above:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Multimedia_Programming/Video_Editing/Q_24468702.html

In response to the question (your link) that asked: "Can someone explain how to use eRightSoft's Super Video Converter software to convert FLV flash files to a suitable DVD format, eg., what settings should I use?"

You replied: "I use mpeg 1 and a video scale of 320 by 240 for a better quality  the frame rate of an actual DVD mpeg  is 720x576"

And sorry to be a pain, but that's incorrect. Once you reduce the pixels when encoding, you can never get them back. And 320 x240 is not a "better quality" than 720 x 576.

Cheers

Fred

 

by: MeretePosted on 2009-07-21 at 15:19:09ID: 24909937

Fred you need to use the Request Attention if you have any concerns.
 Linking to other questions then making statements in nickg5 question is not the appropiate way.
You've been here long enough to know that.
This question is now closed.
Thank you

 

by: fredshovelPosted on 2009-07-21 at 16:40:21ID: 24910391

Thanks for the sermon Merete but can you not really see that it was your link not mine?  Just scroll up a little and take a look at your own comments. And yes I've been here long enough and it's wearing very, very thin to see EE sink to such a low where totally incorrect information is given and rewarded. And just to reiterate: You don't prepare DVD videos by reducing the resolution to 320 x 240 using the 10 year out-of-date MPEG-1 codec. Perhaps it's you who needs to put your sherrif's badge on and use the "Request Attention" thingo to make a complaint about yours truly. If you want to moderate something, moderate how factual the information that you and others are giving willy nilly.  Like I've said it's making a joke out of EE. So I'm off on a vacation from EE. Don't know for how long, but just keep your fingers crossed it could be terminal.
And now the question is really closed.
Have a nice day and be kind to the cane toads up there.


 

by: nickg5Posted on 2009-07-22 at 07:17:04ID: 24915146

I'll experience this resolution thing and see what happens.
I want burned DVD's from my computer and my table top recorder to play anywhere since I travel out of the country and take my laptop with me, and may have a DVD player in my car.

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