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How can I use my existing Dreamcast CDs with a Dreamcast Emulator?

Asked by: molar

I would like to try and resurrect some old Dreamcast games I have in the attic (fully legit originals), but I don't really have room for the Dreamcast

How can I use my existing Dreamcast CDs  with a Dreamcast emulator?

I've downloaded Chankcast (Alpha025) as that seems to be the most commonly used emulator . The help file talks about using Daemon Tools to mount an ISOs, but I can't find a way to turn my Dreamcast CDs into ISO files.

I've tried using Blindwrite after reading a couple of message boards, but I can't get it to recognise more than about 10MB of data on the CD.

Any help appreciated.

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2008-04-14 at 09:38:05ID23320865
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Answers

 

by: BarthaxPosted on 2008-04-15 at 01:14:01ID: 21356826

You are correct - the drive in the Dreamcast uses two distinct speeds - the inner most part (the part you have successfully replicated) is a normal CD but the outer part is burnt at half speed & normal drives will be unable to read that portion.  Hence, they can't be copied by normal CD drives.  The format of these discs is called GD-ROM.

 

by: JoudasPosted on 2008-04-15 at 01:19:16ID: 21356846

I don't own a DreamCast, so you'll have to forgive me if this is unhelpful, but from some basic research I discovered this:

"The Sega Dreamcast CD's are actually GD-ROMs, sort for Gigabyte Disc, holding maximum 1 GB of Data instead of the standard 650-700 Mb. Developed by Yamaha, the GD-ROM is a proprietary format which works by packing the pits on the disc closer together to store more data. Along with more storage the GD-ROMs provide an extra level of Copy Protection as they cannot be reproduced using a standard CD-Writer."

This article also goes on to explain why you get a small chunk of the disc when you put it in a normal CD reader:

"The are 3 distinct area's when you look at the bottom of a GD-ROM disc.

The low-density inner track (dark gray) contains about 35 Mb (4 mins) DATA which is also accessible by normal CD-Readers.

The outer track (light gray) contains about 1 Gb (112 mins) DATA but is written in a high density format which can NOT be accessed by normal CD-Readers."

So it sounds like in order to accomplish what you're trying to do, you'll need either a serial cable from the PC to the DC, or the broadband adapter for the DC. Of course, this would also require you to dig out the DreamCast itself and set this all up to rip the games, which may or may not be more trouble then it's worth - that's up to you.

 

by: molarPosted on 2008-04-15 at 02:54:21ID: 21357241

>>>more trouble then it's worth
yes I agree.

It sounds like this is going to be a lot tougher than it first appeared.  On the basis that my Dreamcast still works. It looks like I'm going to have to give up on the emulation idea for the time being.

Thanks for your help

 

by: JstncasePosted on 2008-04-15 at 07:40:59ID: 21359119

Just an FYI:

outdated and a tad bit late. even though the Dreamcast discs are GD-Roms there are normal CD/DVD rom drives that can read the discs. In some occasions with dreamcast CDs, the discs have actually been burnt backwards. Disc spinning the opposite direction.

There are still tools and methods to convert your DC discs into iso. Some utilities that will allow it to be read from your CD drive, or the more simpler yet still annoyance is making an ISO of the disc from your Dreamcast directly to your PC. Requires Network adapter, Phantasy Star, GCISO util and alot of time. The network adapter in the GC also runs ONLY at 10Mb if not slower.

Alternative option - not condoning or recommending, ISO on the internet. Most dreamcast ISOs are smaller than the actual discs. There is alot of padding empty space as wel to make the games seem to use more space than they actually do.

 

by: molarPosted on 2008-04-15 at 11:17:59ID: 21361235

Hi Mike

The missing memebers are displayed if the report is opened directly.

The figure of 59 is inclusive of the missing members.

 

by: molarPosted on 2008-04-15 at 11:19:14ID: 21361246

Oops.
Cut and pasted to the wrong window....
Pls ignore previous comment..

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