Question

problem with almost new pc (keep rebooting) from the first post screen

Asked by: kerm007

i build a new well almost new pc a new board ,ram and cpu into a old case with an old psu and old cdrom
the pc is going to the first asus splash screen and reboot ......it does that almost every time
if i go the the bios and thean press esc not saving the change the pc is able to boot fine almost all the time ....  

wondering if it can be the power supply ?

very weird issue

Thanks

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2009-04-13 at 17:17:18ID24318928
Topic

Personal Computers

Participating Experts
6
Points
100
Comments
27

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. CDROM won't spin
    My CDROM has been working for several months. It has no problem reading Thief, my favorable game. But gradually, it develops into a pattern that when I insert a CDROM, Thief or otherwise, into it, it doesn't spin up. OK I can't determine whether it is spinning. What I can see...
  2. No cdrom
    When I go into device manager I have this problem. Under Hard disk controller I have 2 exclamation marks. The top line says CMD PCI-0646 Bus master pci to ide controller The next 2 lines are the ones with the marks Primary ide controller(single fifo) secondary ide controlle...
  3. PSU exceed +12V
    Hi, My system has a 400Watt PSU, 6 fans, 3 Hdds, 1 cd writer. When i power up the system & run Asus Probe, the dafault +12V value would be 12.896 plus minus. Then when i run the torture test (Prime95 http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm), it will exceed till 13.3 plus minus....
  4. to PSU or not to PSU
    Hi I just need an opinion I have a 300W PSU in my AMD XP 1800+ 512 DDR 266Mhz Gigabyte 7dx+ Motherboard SBLive!5.1 G-Force 4Ti 4400 128Mb (Leadtek) 8139 RTL 10/100 Nic 2 * Fujitsu HDD (40Gb + 6Gb) Creative Labs 6x DVD drive Aopen 48/32/12x CD-R/CD-RW 1x 80mm Fan 1x 80mm PC...
  5. New P4, Asus P4P800 system - random reboots
    Hi guys, first post! :) Yesterday I built a new system (first time build!) and I am experiencing random rebooting which I think may be caused by heat. First, here are the specs: ----- P4 2.4ghz 800fsb (standard fan) Asus P4P800 Deluxe 2 x Kingmax 256mb ddr 3200 X-Micro Gefo...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: skywalker39Posted on 2009-04-13 at 17:24:46ID: 24134088

Hi kerm007,

It's possible that it can be your power supply, not 100% sure though but possible, how old is it? Have you tried testing your memory to see it's faulty bad or going bad? There's a program called memtest86, I would run that to see if it's your memory. Here's the link http://www.memtest86.com/

 

by: mikey1hPosted on 2009-04-13 at 17:25:49ID: 24134094

I would guess that it is more than likely a wrong driver.    when we rebuild computers at my shop, about 90% of the time when this happens, we reinstall the OS, and then the drivers one at a time, making sure they are the exact match for the hardware, and VIOLA   it works.....     usually, we find the culprit is a video or chipset driver that was not intended for the hardware.     let me know how this works out, and if not, will gladly help you troubleshoot further

 

by: kerm007Posted on 2009-04-13 at 17:30:26ID: 24134118

even before i install the OS it was rebooting .......then i weas able to boot up the pc and install the OS

if he boot fine it's ok but if i close it and try to restart few second or minute later it does not work
i just found like a work arround that work but don't kow why

the power supply is about 5 year i will say cause it was installed with a pentium 4 2.8 mhz ...

very weird this behaviour

Thanks

 

by: skywalker39Posted on 2009-04-13 at 17:34:09ID: 24134140

Do you have any spare parts around for testing purposes?

 

by: mikey1hPosted on 2009-04-13 at 17:36:20ID: 24134145

It definately wouldn't hurt to change the power supply then, and they are definately cheap enough even if that wasn't the problem....         does it do the reboot at the memory check, or the drive scan, or where in the BIOS startup procedure does it trip out?    

 

by: kerm007Posted on 2009-04-13 at 17:38:18ID: 24134150

i see the post from asus the splash screen and then boom reboot 1 time over 10 i can go press tab to see post .....but not often

 

by: kerm007Posted on 2009-04-13 at 17:38:58ID: 24134155

no not even a psu ..... :-(

 

by: mikey1hPosted on 2009-04-13 at 17:42:33ID: 24134172

Try first unplugging your CD-ROM and booting without that, just to rule that out as the problem.      Then I would move on to testing the memory... (if you have two chips, pull one out and then the other to make sure that they are not causing the issue)   and finally the CPU......    other than that, we have covered all the peices used at boot, and would move to considering that possibility that the MOBO is bad from the manufacturer.  

 

by: aleghartPosted on 2009-04-13 at 17:46:08ID: 24134188

reset power switch:
1. unplug AC mains
2. press & hold power button for 5 seconds
3. plug in AC mains
4. press power button to power up

go immediately into BIOS:
reset all screens to factory

Do not try to "tweak" anything.  That's the number one reason for mysterious crashing when "I didn't do anything..." come from the user.

See if it will POST now.

If not, you may try removing the unplugging AC mains, remove CMOS battery, short to clear BIOS settings.  Then, boot up without the CMOS battery.


 

by: kerm007Posted on 2009-04-13 at 17:47:46ID: 24134198

already try to unplug the cd rom, and remove one ram stick same issue .......
don't think it could be teh power supply ?

 

by: mikey1hPosted on 2009-04-13 at 17:51:02ID: 24134213

no, I don't think it is the Power supply if it runs without a problem once you manage to get it to boot.      and doubt VERY much that it is a bios problem considering it DOES boot on occassion, but more so sounds like a short or bad solder on the board.    I am assuming that you installed a brand new one that would still have a warranty?    If so, take it back to the store and have them swap it out and I bet it solves your problem.    

 

by: mikey1hPosted on 2009-04-13 at 17:53:25ID: 24134219

I assume as well that you took the precautions of making sure there was no staticc discharge when you built the unit, and that you did not tighten the MOBO so tightly to the case that it could have cracked one of the printed circuits?

 

by: Justin_W_ChandlerPosted on 2009-04-13 at 18:03:28ID: 24134258

Reseat all your components and try again. Do this until it works :)

Change the memory CAS frequency to the highest number, make sure you're using an 80-conductor cable on your hard drive, remove everything from the system except CPU and 1 stick RAM and see if it reboots like this.

Justin Chandler

 

by: kerm007Posted on 2009-04-13 at 18:14:55ID: 24134291

the hard drive is a sata

 

by: mikey1hPosted on 2009-04-13 at 18:25:28ID: 24134325

I stand by my last suggestions.     if you do all that I mentioned up there and still no go, let me know and I will help you look into it farther

 

by: cerrmjPosted on 2009-04-13 at 19:18:01ID: 24134530

Is there a BIOS Upgrade available and have you tried that yet?  

Good luck

Bob.

 

by: m10241Posted on 2009-04-14 at 01:27:18ID: 24135897

I can guess that is your psu, because the new CPUs need more power to operate, so if they couldn't get enough power, they order the mobo to reboot the pc!
(couldn't you borrow  a powerful power supply to test it?)
I am almost sure, because I did saw such a problem, but it's better not to buy it before testing...

 

by: kerm007Posted on 2009-04-14 at 04:44:34ID: 24137057

i already try a bios update saqme issue
i will try to borrow a psu

 

by: Justin_W_ChandlerPosted on 2009-04-14 at 07:02:02ID: 24138264

m10241 - The newer CPUs don't use any [significant] additional power compared to older CPUs. A 350W power supply will happily handle a machine with multiple processors, a powerful video card, and 5 or 6 hard drives without flinching.

I just installed two HP MSA60 drive arrays with 12 x 300GB 15,000RPM SAS hard drives... and the maximum input is 345W. Another point of comparison is I just racked a bunch of HP Proliant DL380G5 servers with 4 quad core 2.66GHz Xeon procs, 32GB RAM, and 5 147GB SAS hard drives... not to mention all the high CFM fans in the system... and it's rated at 500W under 100% load.

Contrary to many [naive] people's belief, you do NOT need a high watt power supply for a desktop system.

Justin Chandler

 

by: kerm007Posted on 2009-04-14 at 08:37:06ID: 24139486

there is some funny sound that comming from the PSU
what he told me is there have some power faillure 2 times last week but with the old pc but same psu


Thanks

 

by: Justin_W_ChandlerPosted on 2009-04-14 at 09:12:01ID: 24139818

If the power supply is failed, that's a different story all together. Grab another one and stick it in, but don't bother getting one of those 500W $50 power supplies, as it's completely unnecessary.

Justin Chandler

 

by: m10241Posted on 2009-04-14 at 10:45:14ID: 24140719

Agha vaghean shoma kerm tashrif darin?! (ker ker)

Please goto :
http://support.asus.com/Powersupplycalculator/pscalculator.aspx?slanguage=en-us
to see how much power do you need!!

Justin_W_Chandler : Thank you, but I did not say that they won't work with 350w psu! anyway your comment is appreciated.

I think this will be also useful :
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/computer-power-consumption.html

 

by: Justin_W_ChandlerPosted on 2009-04-14 at 13:59:26ID: 24142517

Interestingly... I configured it to match the DL380G5 I had mentioned earlier and it's recommending 800W minimum, with only 2 CPUs and when HP themselves state it requires 500W [with 4 CPUs]..... I'd take whatever that site states with a grain of salt... anyways good luck!

 

by: m10241Posted on 2009-04-16 at 02:06:40ID: 24155654

Justin_W_Chandler:
Please give me that grain of salt and I'll give you the whole site! ;)
I think you better knows than one of the biggest hardware manufacturers of the world! (ASUS)
anyway I have to remind you that 500W is what you need at peak, in the normal condition you can use 500-150=350W.
every PSUs has a real output and a named one! that's the difference...

 

by: Justin_W_ChandlerPosted on 2009-04-16 at 08:37:51ID: 24159004

I used to play golf and am still very close friends with Mr. Hu, one of the highest officials in that company. We used to hang out together in Dallas until he returned to Taiwan to get married. Trust me when I know about ASUS. With that said, the site is using a cumulative calculation which might work for average basic configurations, but the more complicated the configuration, the more inaccurate it becomes. I would tend to trust the power calculator that is based on specific hardware (including $5,000+ servers) as opposed to $100 motherboards :) In any case we are digressing.

AUTHOR: Have you made any progress on this? I think we all are waiting for you to remove the PS that is making noise, as you stated. Please advise! :)

Justin Chandler

 

by: mikey1hPosted on 2009-05-12 at 18:08:07ID: 24370772

Not sure what else to suggest.  If the PS is making strange sounds, and there have been power failures, perhaps you should take it to a computer shop and have it tested since you dont have another one to swap out.  Although, we get them all day long at Global for about $20 for a 450 watt unit, not a huge expense to have sitting around in case the need ever arises to swap or test one again

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...