WANT TO BUY NEW NOTEBOOK... SUGGESTIONS

I want all the latest features... but there are sooo many companies offering same features.. Like DELL, GATEWAY, TOSHIBA and some like Custom Made Laptops.


See I want all the gear and gadgets in my notebook.... and I am looking to spend not more than 3500 CANADIAN DOLLARS.


So which is the best notebook for my money...

Thanks


Mohit

you'll probably get the best deal off of ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3425079275&category=42204

you can of course search for one that might better fit your needs

i generally look for the "buy it now" laptops (you can even search for only "buy it now" listings) and treat these like "for sale" items, not "auctioned" items.

Ebay items don't have guranteee

I would prefer to buy directly from manufacture or a retailer that too probally be canadian.

I want to know which notebook is the best value for my money in the market and why I should buy it, over others.


Mohit

Quote from the Ebay page I provided the link to:
<quote>

Warranty & Testing
  Industry Leading 3 Year Limited Warranty
 
 At Xotic PC  we take great pride in the systems we build, which means that attention to detail is our main concern.
Each PC is put through a 50 Point Quality Assurance check along with 72 Hours Consistent Burn In Testing to ensure you receive a perfect Laptop.
We are that convinced of our Quality Assurance program that we offer you a INDUSTRY LEADING 3 Year Limited Warranty PLUS Life Time Technical Support with each Notebook purchase.
Pleas read in the left Grey Navigation bar for further information.
 
If You Have Any Questions! Call us Toll Free 1.888.223.3995
 
<end quote>

unfortunately, he's not canadian though

Well then tell me something Canadian


Thanks


Mohit

Could you please pass me a serviette, I just spilled my poutine

As far as why I recommend it over some others:  The processor, though not as fast as some others, should be MORE than adequate for anything you do.  The Video is the best available in a laptop righ tnow.  The monitor is beautiful, it really is.  It's also one of very few notebooks to offer a DVD-RW at any price.

Oh yeah, and if you do watch DVD's on it (say in a hotel room, like I do with mine) it has extremely good sound quality.

Hope that helps,

AB

Thanks AlbertaBeef

Your opinion was helpful, but I do need some more opinions before making my decision.

As I am giving this question high priority of 500 points , so cannot make my mind right away

Also as the part of this question, please don't mind if I argue with you. I mean debating.

As its a matter of 3500 dollars and I want to make right decision and get best value for my money.

Ok the Toshiba 5200, sounds reallly goood.... but some of the features which I think is useful but not that common yet.

I am refering to DVD writer in that... As I know the speed will be MAX 4X, or might be 2X, not more than that....

So basically whats the point of having DVD writer, if its tooo slow... and the battery life is about 3 hours average.... which is OK I will say

Now your job is to convince me...that why should I still buy this model over others....

I know I have some objects....but you have to overcome those and convince me, its like you are selling me that notebook.

Also as compare to the notebook you suggested, why shouldn't I Buy Centrino, which is basically 2999.99 descent one, with 1MB L2 Cache... which is huge..as I guess and battery life is about 5.8 hours average....

Please suggest ...Thanks

are you looking for a computer salesman, have you tried the local computer store?

NO, they always try to sell , in which they make more money....

Thats why I am here to take help from you guys....

I will only goto store...when I am ready to Buy....

This questions is for your opinions and my opinions....

and at the end we will have a conclusion... Trust me

Mohit,

You're question is basivcally impossible to answer without more detailed feedback from you. Its like looking for advice on buying a car (god bless the car analogy ;=]) and saying 'I want car, pay less than 10,000, what is best' Its just not enough to go on. Do you want to drive offroad? Do you want a soft-top? Do you want a powerful engine, mag wheels? What color?

Likewise .. Do you want to play games? Watch DVD's? Impress your freinds with stylish looks? Have you any special requirements like a large screen or huge hard-disk space?

If your main goal is to say write a book in MS Word, but you would also like something flashy to impress friends then you could get a machine with slower CPU and a longer battery life but that looks like a porche!

Alternately if you want games and DVD's in addition to the usual MS office stuff and  good looks to boot then I think Albertabeef's suggestion is Top notch (Its sounds sweet, man he has nealry convinced me and I'm not even lookin for a lappie!)

Anyways I hope you see my point, if you feedback to us lets say your top 5 priorities of use for the thing then you'll probably get what yer looking for a great deal faster.

Cheers,

Gerry.

how much is $3500 canadian in US dollars

its about 2500 US dollars

Thanks b_vishwajit

Your idea is really good... but if you can get me some URLs which really good laptops which I should consider, that would be great....

As the whole point is VALUE FOR MY MONEY..... I ofcourse want to have all the features.... but again I have to consider the some features which are slow and not common, like DVD writers, Heck no I don't want to sit for hours to burn a DVD, but if some of them comes with and have all other features and beats other laptop in the market, then I don't mind....

Bottom line, I want something with kind of everything of little bit and should have good reviews and stuff

So instead telling me don't go for Toshiba or Go for Dell or Gateway, please tell me which model should I go for and whyyy should I go for that one over others..

Thanks

Mohit

Well Mohit cool down man. You are so much worried about your investement (yeha me too worried in the begining and finaly when i bought my first notebook my thirst for latest technologies was quenched , yeham somewhat). I would suggest you not to spend more than USD 2000. You can get a very good note book in that amount which comes with all latest techie ports, storage media and etc and etc.

Links: Well let me search for the best notebook models out there and I will post the links according to some priority.
But this time you should decide to buy a model. You will definitely get full meaning to your investment only when you buy it and use it. Unless and until how will you come to know that your investment is going to be valued (Uncertain???)
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Mohit

there is no question to go for Dell and the best model that Dell targets compnies with is the Latitude why for the following reasons:

1. it is more reliable that the inspiron
2. it has a moderate weight "close to light weight"

regarding features, you can have it as you want, I will recommend model C640 which so far I bought 5 of them eventhough I was  fan of inspiron models however there is no comparison

they start from about $1300

and here all the info you need about it

http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/products/model_latit_latit_c640.htm

make sure to buy dell full cover with it for a couple of hundred dollares so if you drop it on the floor "and it was your fault" dell will still change it for you, you will enjoy hasdsle free warranty for 3 years

and do not forget to include the wireless lan as well with it

cheers

a link from pcworld for the c640

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,108954,00.asp

cheers

another link from dell

http://www.dell.com/us/en/hied/products/model_latit_latit_c640.htm

cheers

another review with rating

http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_Latitude_C640_series/4505-3122_7-20305954.html

cheers

Hello Ahmed

Thanks for posting the links... But the notebook you showing me is Outdated.

Well Outdated in the sense, it takes SD RAM instead of DDR Ram,

No where in the customization screen, I have seen, I can put any DDR ram.

Sorry to say, but I want something which is current in the market too.

Well, do post some more links which u think better...

Thanks again

Mohit

Also Guys

Is there anyyyy notebook in the market right now with HYPER THREADING TECHNOLOGY ?

Just curious.... that would be a plus point to have that technology

Mohit

The following is Intel available processors as published by Dell, I can only see one model with the Xeon cpu "the precesion model" as seen in the following link on Dell web site "Canada" http://www.dell.com/ca/en/biz/products/line_notebooks.htm

make sure to talk to them and confirm because when I tried to customise it I found the only cpu options available wa P4 which is number 3 in the following CPUs list, so the Xeon cpu has the HT technology as seen below but P4 can have it or not 2 and 3 below :

Intel Processors:
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1.   Intel® XeonTM
The Intel Xeon Processor with 533 MHz front side bus for servers and workstations features innovative technologies such as the Intel NetBurstTM  Microarchitecture and Hyper-Threading Technology. It offers outstanding platform performance, dependability, value and versatility to provide headroom for current and future server and workstation platforms. Make time now to upgrade from older systems and increase your business's competitive advantage.
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2.  Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with Hyper-Threading Technology
Intel Pentium 4 processors with Hyper-Threading Technology are fast and efficient. Hyper-Threading technology allows these blazing fast processors to function more efficiently when running multiple tasks at the same time. This benefit is also highlighted when several CPU-intense applications are running simultaneously.
Inside each Intel processor is an instruction queue of actions waiting to be completed. While one activity is being performed, Hyper-Threading uses idle processor sections to begin the next activity. This efficient use of processing power can enable users to work with multiple applications more effectively, so more tasks can be done in less time.
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3.  Intel Pentium® 4 Processor
The Intel Pentium 4 processor for the desktop provides solid performance on today's high-end applications. The Pentium 4 processor also offers excellent performance for emerging web-based activities and multitasking-oriented users. This desktop processor also offers a great value when used in notebooks. It can deliver significant power and performance at a great price. This is good for customers looking for desktop power in a notebook and who are not as concerned with size and weight. Ideal for people who will be running mainstream applications like internet surfing, digital picture editing, multimedia presentations, word processing, spreadsheets, and basic gaming.1
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4.  Intel® Pentium®  M Processor
Intel's latest processor is the first-ever to be designed from the ground up for mobile computing, allowing systems to be thin, light, and have long battery life. The New Pentium® M processor incorporates innovative power-management features that enable extended battery time while still delivering the power to run robust applications delivering the excellent balance of mobility and performance. Combine this processor with the Intel 855 Chipset Family and the Intel PRO Wireless technology to get the Intel Pentium M processor with Centrino technology (see below). This processor is great for people on the go who are running applications like word processing, spreadsheets, databases, etc., as well as running productivity applications, doing presentations, and working wirelessly on a regular basis.
The Pentium M is designed to yield performance beyond advertised processor speeds. On many industry standard benchmarks, the Pentium M at 1.6 GHz performed comparably to the Mobile Pentium 4-M.
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5.  Intel® CentrinoTM  Mobile Technology
Intel Centrino mobile technology is a great new set of technologies including the Pentium M processor, Intel 855 Chipset Family, and Intel PRO Wireless Mini-PCI card. Centrino mobile technology is not a processor alone, but rather is a brand umbrella for these 3 parts. The Intel PRO Wireless mini-PCI card allows you to connect to 802.11 b wireless networks and the Pentium M processor enables thin, light systems with long battery life. Put this all together and you get a system that is easy to carry, easy to connect, and easy to use for a long time.
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6.  Mobile Intel Pentium® 4 Processor-M
Based on the same technology as the popular desktop Pentium 4 processor, the Mobile Pentium 4-M processor features similar architecture but optimized for battery life and other mobile computing needs so that you can run power intensive components with minimal impact to battery life. Mobile Pentium 4-M processors offer high performance to run robust applications delivering excellent multimedia performance with great mobility. It's great for creating digital video, editing digital photos, gaming, delivering multimedia presentations, and desktop publishing.
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7.  Intel Pentium® III Processor-M
The Mobile Intel Pentium III Processor-M offers dependability and good mobility for ultra thin and light systems. Mobile Intel Pentium III-M products are available in low voltage and ultra low voltage models, for mini- and sub-notebooks, as well as tablet PC platforms.
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8.  Intel Celeron®
The Intel Celeron processor is designed to bring a balanced level of proven technology and value to basic PC desktops. With the Intel Celeron processor you can expect an affordable and reliable PC for your home or home office to meet your basic computing needs, such as e-mailing friends and relatives, tracking home finances, and running interactive or educational software for your kids.
 

cheers

Hello Ahemed

Please post me links with notebooks having HT technology, as I know these all technology, but haven't seen in Notebooks yet ? Please provide me links.

I would reallly prefer if you provide with Canadian Seller.

Like www.dell.ca or so

Thanks

Mohit

by the way http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3425079275&category=42204 has hyper-threading

thanks philjones85

But I would really like if its a Canadian Vendor.

Thanks

Mohit

i was just saying.....

For high-end systems, I've always been a fan of alienware. It's just seemed to me that they offer the most bang for the buck. They have started offering laptops as well, so perhaps it would be something you'd be interested in. Here's a link to their laptop page:

http://www.alienware.com/system_pages/area-51m.aspx

Thanks,

Also What I have noticed is that

if you going for HT Technology, your notebook will be heavy...

What you think, is Centrino technology good for gaming  as what I am seeing is that in Centrino processors

You get maximum or 1.6 Ghz if you looking to spend around 3500 dollars.

and even I have seen some notebooks with 2.66 Ghz Mobile P4 processors which are around 2100 dollars.

There is some difference in weight for sure which is about only 2-3 pounds I will say.

So what you think which is best value....and which gives overall more output

Thanks

Mohit

hi JeffreyGB

I have noticed Alienware too, there notebooks are full of everything and about 9-10 pounds too, which is heavy I will say and on top they are US based and asking tooooo much.

Mohit

With regard to games its almost always going to be the Video card thats the limiting factor.
Laptops are ALWAYS going to be way behind the latest video card technology (latest cards run HOt and are HUGE, both are are at a premuim in portable computing) the best you can hope for are the ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 and GeforceGo the Radeon appears to be streets ahead though:

http://www4.tomshardware.com/mobile/20020220/radeon7500-08.html

Any laptop that comes with this as an option is going to be close to top of the line, so I reckon if you go with the cheapest Insperon (you sound like you are sold on Dell) with this card you can't go too far wrong.

Gerry.

PS I still like the sound of the Toshiba!

OK.... The Deal !!!!!


Model: Apire 1703SC DeskNote - H

           Intel Pentium 4, SISM650 chipset
           Supporting 400/533 Mhz bus
           17" TFT SXGA colour LCD with 1280 x 1024
           SISM650 embedded VGA engine with 64mb shared
           Built in 56k international modem + 10/100 ethernet
           2 x FireWire & 1 x S-Video ports
           4x USB 2.0 ports
           weight: 6.4 kg

CPU:         Intel Pentium 2.80 Ghz
Screen:     17" Active colour screen
Memory:    512 Mb PC-266 DDR
HardDrive: 80 Gb EIDE with 8mb Buffer
Media:       8x DVD + 24/10/8 CD-RW Combo

All this from just under $3500 from "Acer"

Well Acer is not Canadian

I am working on a Chart of comparision, besides more inputs are more welcome too. Will post solution ASAP
I might be replying slow as I have more questions open too and if you help in that too, that would give you more points, mostly all questions carry 500 points each.

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Miscellaneous/Lounge/Q_20703251.html  - carries 1000 points

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Desktops/Q_20697912.html   - carries 500 points

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Miscellaneous/Q_20697903.html - 500 points

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Web/Web_Languages/PHP/PHP_Databases/Q_20697452.html - 500 points

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Miscellaneous/URLs/Q_20697905.html#9102259 - 500 points

Thanks All

What "Make" is Canadian?

Are you saying Acer is not sold Canada?

I would doubt ANY computers are MADE in Canada.

i'm thinking write2mohit is a Canadian Supremacist, i'm suprised he's even accepting suggestion from us lowly Americans

Ok guys my trying to say Canadian or not is that

Every laptop comes with 1 years parts and labour

I will like to have that support within canada.

Like Acer, I have seen Acer in any reputed stores in Canada.

I know acer is being sold in Canada but hardly seen any.

So please don't mis understood me.

Thanks

Mohit

Thanks Ralph

ByFar yours the best answers..... u showed me the series of notebook and even I can compare it

The whole idea was basically I want to get convinced. I now have 5 notebooks , in which I have to choose one.

But thanks alot for those sites they realllly helped me

Mohit

I would have to say, go for Dell and get an Inspiron 8500+ (has not shipped yet but will be soon) which uses the latest technology in the following areas:

It uses up to a 1.7 GHz Pentium-M processor with 1MB L2 cache which can even outperform most notebook processors at 2.

It has a 15.4 inch wide screen that has a 16:10 aspect ratio, perfect for watching widescreen DVD movies!

It has PC 2700 DDR memory and supports up to 2GB of it!

Up to an 80 GB ultra ATA hard drive

DVD+RW drive if you want it or save money with a CDRW/DVD combo drive

MiniPCI Wireless card (if it is an Intel wireless then you would have Centrino Technology!

You can get a complete care warranty that covers your system if you do "accidental" damage to it like drop it, spill something on it, run over it with your car, or anything other that is an accident.  It even covers surges but does not cover theft of course.

If you have a business and can get it under a business, you can purchase Gold Technical Support which is based in Round Rock, TX in the US with industry certified technicians that can answer your call in under 2 minutes in about 90% of their calls!

If I were you, hold off for a little bit until this system is released so you can get the best technology out there.

And please do not be cheap when buying a laptop or you will be very disappointed.

Thanks turbo76542

Your suggestion was really helpful too.

But is there any information about this notebook you talked about above, like whats going to be the price and when will be the released date and how much these warranties cost and stuff.

If you can send me the link that would be great , Thanks

Mohit

I will get you that information as soon as I can

Actually the Dell computer I was talking about is going to be the Inspiron 8600 with the same specs as mentioned above.  It will be released on the 18th of August this year.  I don't know what the cost will be but if you check out http://www.dell.com, you should be able to price one around the 18th or sooner.  The Complete Care warranty will add about $468 US or around that which is what I paid for it.  I paid $3500 US for my Inspiron 8200 and got complete care, onsite service. I also got a leather carrying case, wireless network card and wireless base station.  All of this from Dell and all supported by Dell.  No third party stuff that is not covered.  I can price one out when they are available and give you the specs too if I get a chance.

hey turbo76542

thats quite pricey notebook you got. As 3500 US is around $5000 Canadian.

Wow thats alot of money for the notebook nowadays. I hope 8600 won't be that expensive.

The computer itself did not cost 3500.  As I stated, I got a leather carrying case ($100), A wireless base station (about $200), a wireless pcmcia card ($100), and other odds and ends.  This system was bought a year ago and systems are cheaper now.  When I got it, it was top of the line.  I'm sure it won't be that expensive now though and you will get better performance than mine for sure.