then can I alternatively find out the 2 points to be short circuited?
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Browse All TopicsIs it true that on some mobos there is no reset jumper to reset the BIOS setting? For example in HP Omnibook 800CT? If yes, why?
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Maybe, but I won't try to tell you, not having seen a Omnibook mobo, I don't know if the blank solder spots are even there. Can you take the CMOS Battery out?
If this is a password problem, then read this?
Appendix B - Hewlett-Packard Password
Removal Policy
If the user forgets the system password, there is a master password that will
unlock the OmniBook. The user calls Technical Support to determine this
master password as follows:
1. Support will tell the user the keys to type at the password entry screen:
[Alt][Shift][f10]
2. The OmniBook generates and displays an encoded master password.
This is displayed under the normal password entry area. At this point, this
is the only password that will unlock the OmniBook unless the user
presses [ESC] to remove the encoded master from the password entry
screen. Then the user's stored password can be entered.
3. The user reads the encoded master password to Support.
4. Support runs a program that decodes the encoded password, and reads
the decoded password (alphanumeric) to the user.
5. The user types in the decoded password.
6. OmniBook decodes the encoded master password it generated and
compares it to the decoded password typed in by the user.
7. If the two passwords match, the OmniBook is unlocked. The forgotten
password is automatically erased. Support can then guide the user
through the process of entering a new password.
8. If the two passwords do not match, the previous sequence must be
repeated until the user correctly enters a master password.
The encoded master password is an eight-character alphanumeric sequence
that the OmniBook generates at random every time the appropriate keys are
pressed in the password entry screen. Because it is generated randomly, a
master password can only be used to unlock the OmniBook once. If the user
forgets the password at another time, it will require another call to Support. (If
the user presses the appropriate keys by mistake, pressing [ESC] will allow
entering the stored password.)
The password descramble programs for the HP OmniBook Notebook PCs are
protected as HP Company Private information. They may not be copied,
backed-up, printed or distributed. There are only six official copies of each
program.
In addition to the program being protected, its use is also controlled. Hewlett-
Packard and authorized support providers must ensure with written evidence
that the OmniBook that is being "descrambled" is actually in the hands of the
unit's actual and current owner. This requires a sales receipt showing the unit
serial number and owner's name, or a written statement from the owner
attesting that he or she is the owner of the unit. The statement can be a fax
copy of the document. The fact that the unit is in the hands of an HP
representative on behalf of the customer is not evidence of ownership. In
addition, HP will not descramble a unit for any non-owner, even if it involves
law enforcement agencies. If you receive such a request, you should notify
management and HP Corporate Legal immediately. (These requests may
require a court order prior to our participation.)
Further, you must log the name, serial number and date of the running of the
descramble program, and file the written backup with the log. The log and
backup are subject to standard record retention process and review.
The final issue relating to descramble of passwords is that HP cannot provide
information to users that would assist them in improperly descrambling a
password and opening a unit.
to coral47: I had read the appendix before, that's why I asked this to bypass it. I bought it from an auction so I can't use the HP service to get the password. The requirement is so strict. Even contacting an HP dealer won't help.
To AlbertaBeef: what if you can't even find the battery?
Pls have a check yourself at http://24.237.160.4/files/
to radomirthegreat: what magic could that "insert" do?
You need either HP Master Password, or contact the old owner and get the password from them. You can try some of these, but I don't think they will help. You can GOOGLE for password crackers also, same comment.
The following is a list of known factory-set passwords for different BIOS manufactures:
AWARD BIOS:
AW
AWARD
AWARD_PS
AWARD_PW
AWARD_HW
AWARD SW
AWARD_SW
Award SW
AWARD PW
_award
awkward
alfaromeo
J64
j256
j262
j322
01322222
589589
589721
HLT
SER
SKY_FOX
Syxz
aLLy
CONCAT
TTPTHA
aPAf
HLT
KDD
ZBAAACA
ZAAADA
ZJAAADC
djonet
AMI BIOS:
AMI
ami
bios
setup
cmos
AMIDECODE
A.M.I.
AMI SW
AMI_SW
BIOS
PASSWORD
HEWITT RAND
Oder
A.M.I.
AMI!SW
AMI?SW
HEWITT RAND
alfarome
efmukl
Phoenix:
phoenix
Compaq:
compaq
Tinys:
Tiny
Other known defaults:
LKWPETER
lkwpeter
BIOSTAR
biostar
BIOSSTAR
biosstar
ALFAROME
Syxz
Wodj
PASS
PASSOFF
CONDO
J64
BIOS
SETUP
CMOS
admin
system
I downloaded a couple of your pics for another look later, but I didn't really see anything I could tell you yet. The area above the video chip looks promising. There are some jumpers and red buttons (?) there. Do you have the manual, and does it say anything about these? Can you tell which is the BIOS Chip? ( look for AMI, AWARD, PHENIOX, etc. )
to coral47: for the manuals: http://24.237.160.4/files/
Sorry, I still need to have a good look myself at them but at the very least this omni looks quite different than the other notebooks.
I can't find anything useful in the manual or in the pics.
You could try fighting with HP by telling them your story, and see if they will work with you ( Ebay should have some kind of record of the transaction? )
Or maybe getting another BIOS chip. There are places on the web that sell them.
You might be able to find a dead/wounded laptop at a repair shop, flea market, yard sale, or someone who deals in used computer parts. Maybe a 'wanted' ad on a postup board or in the classifieds.
Think of it as a treasure hunt. Any which way, it will be a learning experience.
to coral47:
Regarding your suggestion of "figthing with HP", here is an article of how Dell has an "unshakable policy" of returning address: http://www.smh.com.au/arti
If I send back my notebook to HP, chances are they would simply send it back to the registered owner!
At the moment, it is still disassembled, later I will try the passwords you introduce once it is assembled back.
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by: coral47Posted on 2003-10-05 at 20:48:18ID: 9496160
It would seem that this is true. As to Why?, You guess is as good as mine.