Question

What would be causing this keyboard error

Asked by: GTKINC

I have a Dell Dimension 2400 that when it boots up I get a Keyboard Error.  I'm told to press f1 to continue or f2 for the setup.  Nothing works though.  The specific error is 8602 - Auxiliary Device Failure.  I have tried other keyboards.  I have tried a USB keyboard and when its plugged in it bypasses the keyboard error and works fine in Windows but it will not work at the BIOS level.  Finally the 4 lights that are on the motherboard plate at the back where everything connects a, b and c are green and d is orange.  Thanks in advance for any help that can be given.

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2006-04-01 at 12:16:29ID21798078
Tags

error

,

keyboard

,

failure

Topic

General Computer Systems

Participating Experts
3
Points
500
Comments
23

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. Keyboard errors
    Heres a good one. My old 486 refuses to recognize it has a functioning keyboard. "keyboard error or no keyboard present". I had a faulty keyboard on it for one boot up. Now it fails to recognize a functioning keyboard. It is more than happy to tell me to press "...
  2. Keyboard
    Error Message:Your Keyboard is locked, unlock the key. In the boot up process. Its VxPro Motherboard. I tried all the good AT Keayboard I have. What is the solution to that. Please help me. Thank you.
  3. Keyboard
    Hi, Is there a way to lockout your keyboard?? Thnaks for any help
  4. Faulty keyboard
    After starting my computer, whatever keys that I pressed on my keyboard does not respond. Even if I unplug the keyboard, the computer just start up as normal. I was expecting an error message like "no keyboard present" or something like that but none. Then I bought ...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: David523Posted on 2006-04-01 at 12:39:08ID: 16351616

I've checked the Service Manual for the Diagnostic Light Sequence described with the following:

Dicagnostice Lights:

A, B and C = GREEN
D = ORAGNGE (YELLOW / AMBER)

Service Manual States:

Problem Description:

Another failure has occurred.

Sugjested Resolution:


Ensure that the cables are properly connected to the system board from the hard drive, CD drive, and DVD drive.
If the problem persists, see "Contacting Dell" in your Owner's Manual.


No other information is available But I believe I've seen this same Diagnoostic Light Sequence before on a different model Dell with the resolution being to Replace the Motherboard.

Please Post the results of Reseating the Cables.

Hope this Helps!!!

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-01 at 12:43:52ID: 16351634

Well, this is tricky.

It sounds like your PS/2 controller may have gone.   When you say you've tried other keyboards, I presume they were also PS/2 keyboards -- correct?

A USB keyboard will work fine in the BIOS and at the DOS level IF "USB Legacy Support" is enabled in the BIOS.   Unfortunately, since you can't get to the BIOS, you can't set this !!   Are you SURE you can't enter the BIOS with the USB keyboard?   (Try using different USB ports)

Just in case you've recently reconnected things --- are you SURE you have the keyboard and mouse plugged into the correct PS/2 ports?  (they're physically the same and it's easy to connect incorrectly)

 

by: GTKINCPosted on 2006-04-01 at 12:51:49ID: 16351656

David, reseated all and still the same.

Gary, I'm almost offended.  But yes, they are plugged into the correct spots.  

I've replace a few of these MOBOS before and this model for lack of a better term sux.  Looks like I may have to replace another.

 

by: maramomPosted on 2006-04-01 at 12:52:51ID: 16351662

It sounds like your PS2 port may be faulty. The problem would be to enable  USB keyboard to work in bios setup. The default settings for USB devices and emulation are 'on', so resetting CMOS will likely allow the USB keyboard to work. The CMOS jumper is next to the battery. Moving it to 'reset' then normal (while powered off, unplugged) will clear CMOS. This may even solve the ps2 problem if the CMOS was corrupted.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-01 at 12:56:23ID: 16351675

"... Gary, I'm almost offended " ==> please don't be !!  I almost didn't make that comment; but it's easy to do -- I've done it myself when just reaching behind a PC to plug the keyboard/mouse in.   I was pretty sure that wasn't the case -- but you'd hate to spend time on this and find out it was something that simple.

 

by: GTKINCPosted on 2006-04-01 at 12:59:42ID: 16351684

I'm being sarcastic.  Trust me I know.  You have to make sure the person knows to make sure the power is on in the house when they complain about not being able to see their "windows screen"

 

by: GTKINCPosted on 2006-04-01 at 13:00:19ID: 16351685

maramom, i'll try that and repost.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-01 at 13:01:11ID: 16351691

... by the way, try booting with the USB keyboard connected and NO mouse connected.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-01 at 13:04:02ID: 16351701

maramom -- you beat me to the punch => I just thought of that as I posted my last note :-)

I think there's an excellent chance that will do the trick -- as I noted earlier, the trick here is to get USB legacy support enabled; and I agree it's almost certainly the default setting for the BIOS.

 

by: maramomPosted on 2006-04-01 at 13:07:03ID: 16351714

I checked the readily available manual, and it is!  :)

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-01 at 13:13:17ID: 16351739

... Yes, I just confirmed that  (one good thing about Dells is that their documentation is all easily available online).

 

by: David523Posted on 2006-04-01 at 16:19:25ID: 16352564

Dell User Manual, Service Manual:

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim8400/en/index.htm

Hope this Helps!!!

 

by: GTKINCPosted on 2006-04-01 at 18:36:13ID: 16352805

Spot on Gary!  I plugged just the keyboard in and it booted right up.  If there were any errors then I couldn't see them.  I placed a USB mouse on the machine and everything seems to be perfect.

This being said what would you say the prognosis for the machine is?  More specifically should I just run it until it quits?  Thanks for your time and prompt answers.

 

by: GTKINCPosted on 2006-04-01 at 18:42:44ID: 16352812

Well.  It looks like I jumped the gun.  It worked until I rebooted it.  Now I'm back to square one again.  

 

by: maramomPosted on 2006-04-01 at 18:44:08ID: 16352814

Did you clear CMOS?

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-01 at 19:46:19ID: 16352917

Try booting again with JUST the keyboard and no mouse.   See if you can get into BIOS setup.  If so, be sure to set USB emulation ON.   If you can't do that, then do a CMOS reset -- either by using the jumper (as described by maramom) or by simply removing the CMOS battery for 30 seconds (with, of course, the system unplugged).

As for the "prognosis" -- it sounds like your PS/2 ports have failed.   If the system will work okay with a USB keyboard & mouse, the system should be fine.   If not, then there may be a more fundamental issue.   If you're willing to spend a few $$ ($10 - $15) we can try to resurrect it.   Otherwise, it may very well need a new motherboard.

 

by: GTKINCPosted on 2006-04-03 at 09:06:31ID: 16362369

I have cleared the CMOS.  I can't get the machine to work with the USB keyboard.  It stops at the hit F1 or F2 screen and the keys of a PS2 or USB keyboard don't work.

Also even with no keyboard or mouse hooked up it still gives me a keyboard failure.  Its looking like a mobo.

 

by: David523Posted on 2006-04-03 at 09:29:42ID: 16362598

With all that has been done, the Diagnostic Lights and the issue still exist - though sometimes intermittent, the Motherboard would seem to be the solution.  Following are some sources for a Motherboard but further searching internet might be adviseable:

1.  You can call Dell for a parts price quote at:  (800) 822-8965

2.  http://www.nobleowl.com/products.asp?product_id=6864838046

3.  http://www.ascendtech.us/itemdesc.asp?ic=MB4DELG1548FOPW&eq=&Tp=

As always when considering parts replacement I suggest that consideration be made towards the purchase of New Equipement.  Overall cost and equipment quality may be cheaper with New Equipment than repair action.  Dell is having some good sales as follows:

 http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/odg_special49?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

Hope this Helps!!!

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-03 at 09:32:45ID: 16362637

Well ... one good thing about the 2400 ==> unlike many Dells, it uses a standard ATX power supply.  So you can replace the motherboard with any ATX unit without having to also replace the power supply.   I would NOT buy another 2400 motherboard -- you may as well get a board with an AGP slot if you're going to replace it.


 

by: GTKINCPosted on 2006-04-03 at 09:37:36ID: 16362679

I agree with the fact that this motherboard is crap.  I have replaced about 10 of them so far with this particular model.  But the issue with putting another board (non Dell) is that the original xp disk won't work.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-03 at 09:40:52ID: 16362715

Here's a nice little board for $50 with onboard sound and video and an AGP slot so you have the option of better/faster video:  http://www.directron.com/ga8s661fxmprz.html

The downside of using a non-Dell motherboard is that when you call M'Soft to re-activate XP they MAY give you a hassle (since it's a Dell OEM XP with a non-Dell motherboard).  From what I've read, they'll do it (just point out that all you did was replaced the motherboard), but it is a risk.

 

by: GTKINCPosted on 2006-04-03 at 09:45:37ID: 16362758

My experience has been no.  But I do agree that another board would be a better solution.  Thanks for all the help.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-04-03 at 09:46:53ID: 16362771

... obviously you are already aware of the XP activation issue :-)     I do know a person with a Gateway who had a similar issue -- replaced the motherboard with a non-Gateway board -- and Microsoft DID give him an activation key;  and I've read of the same for Dells => but it IS a potential issue; and Microsoft could refuse to allow activation.    Worst case is an extra $90: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102059
(but I think they'd probably activate the system for you)


20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...