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How to Overclock Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 and Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6?

Asked by: iamanewbie

Hi,

I have never done oveclocking in my life. Easy Tune utility crashes my system all the time. Is there anybody to tell me the optimum bios settings (with all stock hardware) for the following system. I have heard that 4 GHz is possible but I dont need to get too high. I want a stable system with stock cooling...Here's the configuration:

OS: Windows Xp Professional
File system: NTFS
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 (Bios Version F7)
SATA: RAID10 (with 2 Westen Digital 320 GB + 2 Seagate 320 GB) (2 mirrored SATA's are stripped)
RAM: Twinmos DDR2 667Mhz 2x 1GB
Video Card: Asus EN 7950 GT

Thanks,
Tolga.

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by: garycasePosted on 2006-12-11 at 01:44:32ID: 18113601

"... I want a stable system with stock cooling ..." ==> Then be happy with your Core 2 Duo :-)   ... and don't overclock it.   But if you must ... 4GB is too high for an E6600 (at least with stock cooling).   I would do at most a 50% overclock (3.6GHz) ... and 40% is probably a safer number (3.36GHz).   4GHz HAS been achieved in some tests ... but NOT with stock cooling => and I would definitely not recommend it (I personally simply do not overclock).   If you must overclock, I would ramp the FSB up in small increments until you reach a 40% overclock ==> or until it's no longer stable.   I don't know if your motherboard "fails safe" ... or if you'll need to do a CMOS reset at that point => but in any event pay attention to what parameters you've changed at each stage.   Note also that if your other components (memory, etc.) can't handle the changes you make, the system will not be stable long before the CPU "hits the wall."

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-12-11 at 01:45:43ID: 18113606

... by the way, Callandor and I have differing views on overclocking => and I'm sure he'll post the details on exactly what you should try to ramp up the CPU here  (he's an overclocker;  I'm not).

 

by: CallandorPosted on 2006-12-11 at 05:35:51ID: 18114471

Gary is right; I'm an overclocker and have a lot of experience doing it ;-)

The good news is that the E6600 is easily overclockable by just increasing the motherboard FSB.  That cpu has a normal FSB of 266, and you should be able to bump it up to 400 (50% overclock), but do it in small jumps of 33 at first - 266->300->333->366->400.  At each jump, run a benchmark program to be sure that everything is working as expected: 3DMark05 (or PCMark if video benchmarking is not critical).  50% is extremely good for any cpu, and you may be able to go higher, but as a beginner I would not recommend it.  As Gary said, you need better cooling when you go higher.  You also need to check if the SATA controller is affected by this.  I have an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum that I could only use certain SATA ports on because the other ones were not locked to the same frequency when the FSB was changed.

 

by: iamanewbiePosted on 2006-12-11 at 11:16:21ID: 18116950

Callandor,

I forgot to mention I had a E6600 but you already figured it out form my other post:) How do I check if my SATA Controller is ok for which ports? This is my main issue. I have tried to overclock my MB and it always messed up my SATA configuration with built in Intel Storage Manager. See my problems in this page http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Desktops/Q_22088766.html

I want to overclock :) But on the other hand I want to make sure if my Motherboard is not faulty and capable.

By the way thank you garycase for the tips.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-12-11 at 11:33:18ID: 18117085

I noted that you had an E6600 in my post :-)    ... as for your SATA controller, etc., that's what I meant when I noted that "... if your other components (memory, etc.) can't handle the changes you make, the system will not be stable ..."

The only way to really confirm what does/doesn't work is to try it.   And you should do so in small steps (the smaller the better), with a fairly extensive test at each step to confirm that all is stable.   As for whether or not your motherboard has any issues, if it's stable at stock speeds, it's difficult to know whether failure at overclocked settings is due to a motherboard issue or failure of some other parts (e.g. memory).   Just takes some experimentation.   Callandor may have other insights here ...

 

by: iamanewbiePosted on 2006-12-11 at 12:00:17ID: 18117321

Oh I had written CPU info in the title ok ok:)

 

by: CallandorPosted on 2006-12-11 at 12:58:53ID: 18117868

I was only able to determine my SATA ports were not locked because there was a warning in numerous articles outlining the problem.  In your case, I couldn't find any news about the SATA ports being affected by overclocking.  You should try the incremental approach and check when it no longer works properly.

 

by: iamanewbiePosted on 2006-12-11 at 13:31:01ID: 18118183

Yes, Callandor, I couldnt find any articles or posts about SATA controller being affected by the overclock about GA-965P-DQ6. So garycase might be right here. Some other parts of the computer might be affecting the whole thing. Example: I have a front panel USB Hub (made by Frisby) which is also a card reader.

I got some settings from the internet and overclocked the CPU to 3.30 Ghz. Now I will l start unplugging and disabling USB stuff to test the stability of SATA Controller. Will let you know asap.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-12-11 at 13:48:35ID: 18118373

If you're running stable at 3.3GHz that's not bad => 37.5% overclock :-)   Considering how fast an E6600 is at stock, that's got to be a SCREAMING machine !!

 

by: iamanewbiePosted on 2006-12-11 at 16:01:48ID: 18119337

I checked the the USB Hub doesnt affect the system.

After googling alittle, I came across some posts, some users have experienced SATA Port locking problems after overclocking. I am not sure if this is what I have but gonna find out.

Again, I set up a RAID 10 with 4x 320GB disks. Because I already have a boot order issue, this time I didnt connect additional disks which I had 2 more 200GB. System was already at 3.30 Ghz before this. And after Windows Xp is up and running I tried another increment of FSB (now @375, CPU temp is 54C maybe that is  not really good) but no problems so far. Has been 1 hours yet no instability issue.

If the system remains stable like this for 2-3 days I am gonna call this incident a SATA Port locking issue (as Callandor implied). Because the only change I made is not using the extra ports on the RAID Controller.

Thanks
Tolga

 

by: iamanewbiePosted on 2006-12-14 at 16:47:52ID: 18143459

I took out this board from the computer:( Sent it to distributer for a check up. Lets see what happens.

In the meantime I bought another MB. Asus P5W DH Deluxe. Fantastic from the start. Fully loaded. And great overclocker. Running 3.6 Ghz now very stable. Only thing about it is its using ICHR7 RAID controller. Its kind of old compared to ICHR8 which has better features, but the other features of the board beats anything I have seen.

I will update about the Gigabyte board soon. Thx.
Tolga.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-12-14 at 20:07:03ID: 18144285

3.6GHz !!  One screaming system ... and there's nothing wrong with the ICH7 controller.   Sounds like you're definitely getting your money's worth out of that E6600 ... ALMOST makes me want to try a bit of overclocking :-)  :-)

 

by: CallandorPosted on 2006-12-14 at 21:15:16ID: 18144466

>ALMOST makes me want to try a bit of overclocking

I ALMOST fell on the floor when I read that!  Years down the road, I will replace my non-overclocking motherboard with one that will so that I can stretch the performance of my processor.

 

by: iamanewbiePosted on 2006-12-15 at 02:48:41ID: 18145246

Haha... garycase, I am sure you are aware but just a reminder! Many Motherboards nowadays, are overclocking itself without the user knowing it. They are located under various names in the Bios. (like Hyperthread) and they are enabled by default. So there is nothing wrong with overclocking. Of course there are measures to overclocking. Although many people would overclock to the limit even if they know the CPU is gonna last only a day:) I guess its just a weird kind kind of curiousity.  Maybe Collander is one of them:) Cheers.

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