Question

Can't boot with new PCI-E TV Tuner card

Asked by: lrkwalkers

Hi

I bought one of these tuner cards here -> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190334408946&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:AU:1123

I put it in the PCI-E (1x) slot in an old Lenovo machine (Thinkcentre 8982-A14) however the machine freezes at the "ThinkCentre" splash screen...I can't even get into the bios when the card is in.

I took the card and went into the bios and disabled pretty much everything I didn't need (parallel port, serial port, etc).  I put the card back in but the machine will still not boot.

I tried the card in another HP machine and it booted fine.

Is the Lenovo machine too old for this PCI-E card?  Are there any compatibility issues with PCI-E?  Any other ideas?

Thanks

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Answers

 

by: compfixer101Posted on 2009-11-05 at 19:35:29ID: 25756417

might be,

but the diagram states that is has a 1X PCI-E port

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-65955

 

by: lrkwalkersPosted on 2009-11-05 at 20:15:33ID: 25756572

Yeah, saw that diagram as well before.

Doesn't make sense

 

by: compfixer101Posted on 2009-11-05 at 20:21:27ID: 25756596

yeah it really doesn't make sense, sense it does produce video, and does go up to the POST, so it has to be failing post, any way to post the errors?

 

by: lrkwalkersPosted on 2009-11-05 at 20:26:54ID: 25756612

No errors are shown as far as I can see...just pauses.

I tried it in another Lenovo machine that is exactly the same model and the same thing happens.

 

by: compfixer101Posted on 2009-11-05 at 20:28:44ID: 25756618

are you able to remove the logo screen during post?

somtimes the errors are listed but not shown because the logo covers up the results

 

by: coral47Posted on 2009-11-05 at 20:32:13ID: 25756624

Could be the PCI-E revisions are too different (Thinkpad doesn't have enough bandwidth/power to run it).

From your link:
Interface: PCI Express rev. 3.0

This doesn't say what Rev the A55 has, so it might be rev. 1
http://www5.pc.ibm.com/nz/products.nsf/$wwwPartNumLookup/_8982A14?OpenDocument

 

by: lrkwalkersPosted on 2009-11-05 at 20:37:59ID: 25756637

From here http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-65996 you can see this:

Slot 1: Half-height 32 bit PCI 2.3
Slot 2: Half-height 32 bit PCI 2.3
Slot 3: Half-height 32 bit PCI 2.3

Not sure why it only lists 3 slots...there's 2 PCI slots, a PCI-E 1x slot and a PCI-E 16x graphics slot.

So maybe a rev 3.0 card doesn't work in a rev 2.3 slot.  Can anyone confirm this?

 

by: lrkwalkersPosted on 2009-11-05 at 20:42:25ID: 25756652

EDIT: oh, the 16x PCI-E slot is listed under video

 

by: coral47Posted on 2009-11-05 at 20:55:05ID: 25756694

PCI revs and PCI-E revs have nothing to do with each other.This has the bandwidth specs for v1 through v3, as well as their clockspeeds and other tidbits of info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

"In PCIe 1.x , each lane carries 250 MB/s. PCIe 2.0, released in late 2007, adds a Gen2-signalling mode, doubling the rate to 500 MB/s. PCIe 3.0, currently in development (for release around 2010), will add a Gen3-signalling mode, at 1 GB/s."

What is the model of the HP that it does work in?

 

by: lrkwalkersPosted on 2009-11-05 at 21:03:40ID: 25756719

dx2300

 

by: compfixer101Posted on 2009-11-05 at 21:19:13ID: 25756756

you are keeping in the video card correct?

 

by: lrkwalkersPosted on 2009-11-05 at 21:21:35ID: 25756765

No, it doesn't have a PCI-E video card in it...it's using the integrated video.

 

by: compfixer101Posted on 2009-11-05 at 21:24:10ID: 25756775

oh ok, specs are a little off from your system

 

by: lrkwalkersPosted on 2009-11-05 at 21:33:56ID: 25756801

Meaning no go at all? :(

 

by: coral47Posted on 2009-11-05 at 21:39:16ID: 25756825

>> dx2300

hmmmm... I can't find anything that says what rev that one is, either.  
And from what I can tell, they have the same chipset and graphics.
That takes me back to H2IK (heck if i know).   : /

 

by: coral47Posted on 2009-11-05 at 21:53:13ID: 25756871

>> Meaning no go at all?

You could go through the BIOSs and see if there is something that needs to be tweaked on the one it doesn't work on, other than that, I am stumped why it doesn't work.

 

by: sparkmakerPosted on 2009-11-06 at 05:49:54ID: 25759013

According to the specs posted earlier by Coral, this desktop has a 220w power supply, I would think the system is underpowered.

 

by: JohnnyCanuckPosted on 2009-11-06 at 10:08:31ID: 25761452

I'd tend to go along with sparkmaker on this.  220w is pretty minimal power.  Can you see the wattage on the HP's power supply?

 

by: lrkwalkersPosted on 2009-11-07 at 23:29:30ID: 25769695

Yep, it's 220W so I agree that the power supply is too low.

Thanks all for your help

 

by: coral47Posted on 2009-11-07 at 23:51:54ID: 25769731

Thank you much.    : )

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