EXTREME SLOWDOWN WHEN COPYING CD TO CD

When you copy many Mbytes from the first cd-rom to the hard drive did you have any problem ?
When you write from your hard drive to the cd-writer did you have any problem ?
Check your event log to see possible errors.
Check for bios updates for you cd-writer device.
Try to clean the laser lens of your cd rom device (read device) and also try another ide cable.
If you see no defference i think the problem might be your cd rom device so try another one.
I would suggest also to put your cd-writer as master (ide 1). Good Luck

ok everyone thanks for the feedback.

answers to your questions

somos:

if copying disk to disk and going to hard drive first, tihs also takes ages.

miror:

When you copy many Mbytes from the first cd-rom to the hard drive did you have any problem ?
if using explorer then no problem doing the above, it happens very quickly.

When you write from your hard drive to the cd-writer did you have any problem ?
no problems doing this this happes at the d writers maximum speed 32x

Check your event log to see possible errors.

this happens in event viewer
 DCOM got error "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " attempting to start the service ImapiService with arguments "-Service" in order to run the server:
{520CCA63-51A5-11D3-9144-00104BA11C5E}

Check for bios updates for you cd-writer device.
bios updates for cd writer????

Try to clean the laser lens of your cd rom device (read device) and also try another ide cable.
lens is clea, writer is only a few months old and have replaced cables as part of this

If you see no defference i think the problem might be your cd rom device so try another one.
I would suggest also to put your cd-writer as master (ide 1). Good Luck

have now put cd writer as master

monzie:

i have disabled the imapi service problem is still there despite this


ide channels, all show dma in both boxes.


tgtcat69:

now got my system set up as follows jumpers are off cs and back to maslter and slave.

ide 0 master operating system hard drive & slave is cd rom
ide1 cd burner as master & storage hard drive as slave.

have 128 & 256 stick in pc ram is ok never had any response issues.

got only  34% performance working,only usual processes, my satart up items are minimal, i also turn off virus software when burning and have net disconnected when burning

burner has been tried on a win98 pc, it goes like a flying machine, the drive is functionally sound i think.



thanks again everyone

Alright, so we're sure the burner works.  What operating system are you using?  If its 2k, make sure you upgrade to SP4.  If you're using XP, make sure you upgrade to SP1a.  Have you looked around to see if there is a firmware update for your burner? that is what miror is talking about.

What motherboard do you have? Make and chipsett (BIOS revision if you know it too) etc..

Also, what model of CD-RW and CD-ROM do you have?

Obviously the CD-RW is PERFECTLY FINE since it writes at 32x on it's own when writing data from the hard-disk, so don't let anyone worry you about that! :o)

My first recommendation is (while the problem is still occuring) copy the disks to your hard-drive before writing, it's more reliable anyway.
There is an option in the nero write dialog that will perform this for you just before writing, and if you have a fast CD-ROM you won't notice too much (unless you copy LOTS of disks).

When you click on "Copy CD"  in nero (I am assuming you use nero as most people do, if not I'm very sorry and will tell you the equivalent option in other programs if you ask), on the right-hand side click the 'copy options' tab, then unselect 'on the fly'. Nero will now copy the CD to a cache file on your hard-disk before burning (This process would probably be faster that trying to burn directly from a CD if it's dropping to 2x!).

If you have no performance gain after reconfiguring you master/slave options on your IDE devices, then give a shout and I'll try and help if I can!

-Mike A.K.A Nilk :o)

nilknarf,

read me original mail to the forum, it details my motherboard, os, configurations, and what ive tried also, when doing a cd to cd copy and copying via the hard drisk first - thisis still a problem it takes ages to copy to hard disk also.

from device mgr : here are the details all devices have auto detect, and dma if available


ide 0 (Hrd drive ultra dma mode 5) & (cdrom multi word dma mode 2)
ide 1 (burner ultra dma mode 2)  & (hard drive ultra dma mode 5)

im using an asus a7vl-vm. now someone has also suggested to me about 18 months to 2 years ago when my board hit the market, there was an issue with via 4 in 1 drivers and chipsets, bt patches were release. anyone know any thing about this?#

also found out my cd drives are
burner cyber cw088d
cd rom is lg 8402b

hope this helps

Hi, again.  I'm sorry your problem is not solved.

The problem may be in the CD-ROM.

Try this:     Create a image of a CD in the disk using the CD-ROM as the reader. How long does it take?
                  Create a image of a CD in the disk using the CD-RW as the reader. How long does it take?

What is the reading speed of your CD-ROM?
What is the reading speed of your CD-RW?

Does the problem still occur if you disconnect both data and power cables from you second hard disk?

How powerful is your power supply unit?

ptero

Didn't you say that you downloaded the newest chipset drivers?  Perhaps a good thing would be to try flashing your bios..if it doesn't fix your problem, there will be other benefits that you get from it.   What OS are you using?

P.S. If you have run the batch file correctly it should say:

"Step 1 of 3 : REGISTRY MODIFIED FOR ASPI32"
        1 file(s) copied.
"Step 2 of 3 : COPYING ASPI32.SYS"
        1 file(s) copied.
"Step 3 of 3 : COPYING WNASPI32.DLL"
        1 file(s) copied.

alanmadden, tgtcat69 sorry about my "bios update" suggestion,  i want to say cd-writer firmware update.
http://www.spk.1afm.com/firmware.htm for cd-rom
http://www.cyberdrive.de/en/download.php?op=search&query= for cd-writer.


for event message (....ImapiService..) i found (google search) this
"This service operates that cool “drag and drop” CD burn capability. You will need this service to burn CD's. What is the good news? If you set this service to manual, the service starts and stops itself when used with some software packages. This is practically the only service that does do this! If you still cannot burn a CD with it on manual, switch to automatic and feel safe that it starts only when “needed.” This service may take up about 1.6 MB of memory in an idle state."
so this message seems to be no problem.

Also from your tests it seems that your cd-drive and your cd-writer works fine so you do not need to buy new.

I can think two last possibilities,  first perhaps you try to copy from bad cd's (scratches ,dust...) and second you have somewhere software (drivers) problem. The second possibility as you can imagine is the hardest to solve. So if I were you, after the  hardware work (tests, ide arrangement…)  that you already done, now I would remove everything software (drivers, burning software, os patches related with…) and reinstall it step by step checking for errors, conflicts ....

Good Luck

hi all
more question answers..

power supply is fine on pc, all parts getting enought power.

if i disconnect my 2nd hard drive on the seoclnd ide channel - the problemis still there.

my system ran win98 for 2 years, done a fresh formant and instll of xp recently - this is swhen the problems happened with the burner.

i have tried several cds - none are scratched all are flawless.

dont know if this workth mentioning but  the buffer levels on th easyy cd creator 5 software never get above 2%, i would normally expect them to get up to 98% to 100% regularly.

Firmware for the LG reader:

http://www.lgservice.com/jsp/common/download.jsp?DOC_ID=KRSWL000012378&FILE_NAME=KRSWL000012378-b1-a1.zip&ORIGINAL_NAME_b1_a1=8402b.zip&FILE_GUBUN=B

Firmware for the Cyberdrive burner:

http://www.raichu.de/Firmware/downloads/Firmware/brenner/Cyberdrive/cw088d/cw088_120f.zip


Update the firmware.


"The problem may be in the CD-ROM.

Try this:     Create a image of a CD in the disk using the CD-ROM as the reader. How long does it take?
                 Create a image of a CD in the disk using the CD-RW as the reader. How long does it take?"


Good luck!

ptero

I think your best bet here is to trash the drive, no offense but it sounds like cheap one.  GO buy a new one, a name brand one like an LG, or my personal favorite, Mitsumi

XP doesn't ship with ASPI drivers by default like 98 did, so it is possible that the lack of a propper ASPI layer may be affecting ATAPI access when you are writing a CD.

I use a program to rip audio cd's to mp3's called audiocatalyst, it would only read cd's at 1x untill I installed ASPI drivers, maybe when both drives are in use by your cd writing program it uses ASPI to access the CD-ROM correctly perhaps..

So, install the latest APSI drivers from my link above, might help, might not, but it's one less thing that could be causing the problem!

:o)

can anyone tell me why i should update the aspi layers as suggested?

my drives are not scswi they are ide

my understanding is that aspi is scsi related?

no, aspi is not scsi only related

aspi are sort of the drivers for your cd

ptero

they aren't drivers per se....kinda hard to describe, but i suppose for all intensive purposes, call them drivers

"sort of"