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force power off a non apm machine from a batch script.

Asked by: dezmay

hi everyone,

please help. the question is "how will i force power off a non apm machine from a msdos batch script? any help will be great. thank you very much hope to hear from you all soon.

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Answers

 

by: elantraPosted on 2004-05-17 at 23:36:40ID: 11095695

You cannot force power off on a machine without APM.  Sorry.

 

by: jaycaPosted on 2004-05-18 at 00:11:43ID: 11095826

Hmm well I know in 98, you can shutdown a machine via a command or even make a shortcut and have it shutdown.

So not sure why shuttign it down via a batch file would be so hard.

If it is a 2000 machine, there is a resource kit tool called SHUTDOWN.EXE which you can absolutely use a batch file to shut down.

 

by: SupercomputerukPosted on 2004-05-18 at 00:18:32ID: 11095843

Fully powering off a Non APM Machine cannot be done, unless there is an option in the bios for Halt command detect. In which case it might work to do a simple VB Program, using a simple program call:

shell "rundll32.exe user.exe,exitwindows 1"
 this should work on 98 but as I am using XP Pro I cannot guarantee this.

 

by: NilknarfPosted on 2004-05-18 at 03:01:06ID: 11096569

The batch script, is it running in XP, 98 or in pure DOS mode?

 

by: dezmayPosted on 2004-05-18 at 03:05:54ID: 11096587

the batch script should run on dos mode on an Win98se. the machine is a IBM 4694-307 (pos). any help will be great. thanks.

 

by: NilknarfPosted on 2004-05-18 at 03:09:02ID: 11096604

For 95 you can use:
RUNDLL USER.EXE,ExitWindows

For 98 you can use:
RUNDLL SHELL32.DLL,SHExitWindowsEx 1
or
RUNDLL32 KRNL386.EXE,exitkernel

From DOS this should reboot the PC, but not switch it off:
ECHO G=FFFF:0000 ¦ DEBUG

 

by: NilknarfPosted on 2004-05-18 at 03:11:35ID: 11096613

RUNDLL SHELL32.DLL,SHExitWindowsEx 1
would probably be your best bet then if it's 98, never tried it on a non-APM machine though...

 

by: SupercomputerukPosted on 2004-05-18 at 03:54:12ID: 11096839

Firstly you need to check the bios for HALT command detect, aka it will then shut down the pc because doing the ..DLL,SHExitWindowsEx .. and the other methods sends a HALT command to the bios at the end of shutdown. This is mainly visible on linux where it says in teh shutdown routine:
Sending HALT command...
Type thing

 

by: elantraPosted on 2004-05-18 at 07:09:48ID: 11098289

You can shut the computer down but you will not be able to power it off by using code.

 

by: SupercomputerukPosted on 2004-05-18 at 08:50:23ID: 11099302

I wonder if you can force windows to send a HALT command to the bios, ill have to look into that one.

 

by: NilknarfPosted on 2004-05-19 at 01:03:31ID: 11105984

dezmay, why do you need to switch off the PC with a batch script?

If we understood what you're trying to do we might be able to help a little better.

 

by: dezmayPosted on 2004-05-19 at 01:21:10ID: 11106066

to save time i just want to put the script to a scheduler so it will power off automatically on a specified time. thanks Nilknarf.

 

by: NilknarfPosted on 2004-05-19 at 02:08:46ID: 11106284

Have a look at a some of these then:

http://windmeter.ouvaton.org/ShutDownOnTime/

http://www.securitysoftware.cc/apps.html
(scroll down to 'Shutdown', it's a small executable that you could call from a batch file)

http://www.veitch.co.uk/members/veitch/home.nsf/Pages/windowsshutdown_homepage
(shuts down pc at specified time)

http://users.pandora.be/jbosman/applications.html
(you can schedual a shutdown, or call it from a batch script)

Hope this helps! :o)

 

by: ChrisSchumannPosted on 2004-05-22 at 22:21:30ID: 11136378

There is no such thing as a HALT detect in BIOS. Linux says it's halting before it asks the APM BIOS to turn the machine off. On older machines it just sits there with "Power down" on the screen, just like 95 says you can turn the machine off.

You need external hardware to turn the power off. I would do it with something like a box that connects to your serial or parallel port running a watchdog timer. You'd have a program on the PC that runs all the time and toggles a line... any line at all. This would reset the watchdog and keep a relay powered running the PC. When you run the shutdown script, that would kill your program and your watchdog would not reset, and when it times out, it would open the relay, killing power to your PC.

I'm sure there are industrial solutions available, but you should be able to buy parts for about $30 to do this.

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