Question

Intel server crashes unexpectedly

Asked by: DenisBS

Hi,

Has anybody any expertise with Intel Server managent logs.  Our server crashes and the ISM log records the following

Number Time Stamp Sensor Type and Number Event Description Generator ID
1067 21/3/2005 21:59:30 07h - Processor #0x90 IERR OEM Or unspecified (ox2f) OEM D3 = Oxff BMC LUN #0
1068 21/3/2005 21:59:31 07h - Processor #0x91 IERR OEM Or unspecified (ox2f) OEM D3 = Oxff BMC LUN #0
1069 21/3/2005 21:59:35 F3h - OEM reserved #0x85 State asserted transition to OK Event Id = 255 BMC LUN #0
1070 21/3/2005 21:59:35 13h - Critical Interrupt '0x07 Bus unrecoverable error Transition to OK previous event trigger = 08 BMC LUN #0

Any Ideas anyone?

Thanks

Denis

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Answers

 

by: P1zz4Posted on 2005-03-31 at 09:10:02ID: 13673411

The problem stops at the initialization of the beeper....

Are there any sounds from the beeper?

Can you specify the model of the server? Do you have and ISA PnP card connected?

 

by: DenisBSPosted on 2005-04-01 at 00:27:01ID: 13678992

Hi

Thanks for your reply.

The background is that the server is working normally.  It has now shut down without warning on two occasions. When it shuts down it logs the above events in the ISM log.

The server works normally otherwise.

Thanks

Denis

 

by: mysticaldanPosted on 2005-04-02 at 03:36:34ID: 13687497

Have u updated BIOS for ur server? Check manufacturers site for any updates to the hardware.

Seems like a hardware or PnP problem to me where the software cannot interface properly. Is the software updated fully??

Also you might want to shutoff any warning beeps from the ISM panel and then try.

Dan

 

by: GinEricPosted on 2005-04-05 at 04:57:45ID: 13706010

Not sure, but it looks like you hit a reserved state halt instruction inside the processor(s).

Processor ID 90 & 91 at 07h were called by 13h to assert the 85h state, which just seems to be a privileged cpu reserved halt.

Why LUN's are mentioned, I don't know.  Does this server have more than one processor?

The complete Intel [is that correct?] documentation has some things to say about the reserved states and halt.

If the server is up and running normally most of the time, it should have nothing to do with beepers or bios.  There is a specific fail mode op builtin to most uP's these days.  And it does have to get an "OK" from something like OEM 85h reserved state to halt.

It basically issues a stop clock after that.

Leaving the server in a diagnostic state, wherein, had you the tools, you could capture the entire contents of all registers, etc., on the diagnostic or maintenance bus.  Intel uses this for troubleshooting their own timing and other problems, so they have a good idea of what timing problems, heat, etc., are going to occur when they sell the chips.

You should go to Intel's site and try to find out what the error means, and what to do, report, etc..

I'm not sure if AMD and others have implemented the stop clock full halt reserved op.

They may call it something else, but it's based on the original mainframe maintenance bus architecture and their use of the Halt instruction.

 

by: DenisBSPosted on 2005-04-05 at 05:49:00ID: 13706429

Hi

Thanks for your input,  I am still processing this.  I have been told the shutdowns may have been caused by Microsoft Software Update services trying to apply an update automatically. This may or may not be the case but I have turned off SUS and am waiting to see if the server shuts down again.

The server is a dual processor.  The server is quite new and has only been in service for a few months. I have sent the logs to Intel to see if they can issue any guidance as to the interpretation of the logs and I am waiting for their feedback.


I basically need to know if the problem is hardware or software related so I can take appropriate action.

regards

Denis

 

by: mysticaldanPosted on 2005-04-05 at 06:58:46ID: 13707166

My point wud be to play it safe. No harm done if everything is uptodate on the hardware frnt just in case its a case of hardware/software mismatch resulting in this error.

If its just a one off thing i guess u can feel safe that it wont happen again.

Dan

 

by: GinEricPosted on 2005-04-05 at 08:50:19ID: 13708498

Both processors then agreed to the shutdown.  What is on "08 BMC LUN #0 " the event trigger?

Read this :

http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0402.2/1203.html

and be aware that Intel has some problems with indirect addressing with autoincrement, wherein the orginal pointer gets incremented if if points to itself.  There is another problem that a vector during a bus operation can wind up with a randomly generated address and that causes all kinds of problems.

The cause is software and hardware.  The workaround is to write 7 no ops before the call.  This would seem to indicate a combination of hardware timing problems and no software to compensate for it.

The problem is either on the PCI bus or the memory bus, but is reported by the Baseboard Management Controller [BMC].  One patch is in for Linux at :

http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/willy/patches/bmc.diff

It seems to be related to "Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"  which is four zeroes in a row, not ideal for a SCSI configuration and seems to lend itself to a bad pointer with offset=0 and hence timing problems for a fast bus capture or usage.

The problem here may be esoteric.  In that a timing problem will be seen if a race condition exists such that the bus is captured too fast or too slow, and the addressing data is not in sync.  The result will be an address of zero, which is not acceptible post boot loader.

Pretty much, it seems that address data may have been stored and locked before it actually arrived [got all zeroes and thought it was valid].  This would indeed get things like segmentation fault, attempt to access protected area, and many others.

This, in turn, would return pointers to the boot area, and any use of those pointers would then corrupt the entire Operating Environment and the take out the Operating System, resulting in a reserved Halt.

This problem seems to be popping up everywhere.

Anyway, it's worth investigating.

 

by: DenisBSPosted on 2005-04-06 at 01:33:03ID: 13714739

Hi

Thanks for your help.  I think I now have a good understanding of the problem.  I have made arrangements to have the system bios upgraded and  I will monitor the server for a few days, and if all is well I will share the points with mysticalDan (Suggested the BIOS update first) and gineric (good info aided my understanding)

Thanks

Denis

 

by: GinEricPosted on 2005-04-20 at 07:30:11ID: 13824760

Thank you DenisBS

I am marking this question for future reference.  It took a lot of reading and in depth study of the new architecture and I don't want to forget my own reasoning and references.  A lot of people do not understand the Halt and 64-bit stuff yet.

Your error report in the question post is excellent.

I will keep a copy of it for reference.

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