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IDE Error after replacing CD/DVD drive in Toshiba Satellite

Asked by: marathonman330

I have replaced the DVD-ROM/CD-R/RW Drive (Matsushita Model No. UJDA730) in a Toshiba Satellite (Model No. 5105-S501).  The original was broken.  When booting up I now get an IDE #1 Error and the system then boots into Windows.  Windows assigns the drive a letter but I can't access a CD.  When I put the old drive (same model) back in I no longer get the IDE error.  Any idea what it could be?  If it is a jumper setting, I can't find where to set the jumpers on this drive.  Thank you.

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Answers

 

by: zacdlPosted on 2006-01-10 at 19:20:21ID: 15667807

How is everything connected to the motherboard?

 

by: purfusPosted on 2006-01-10 at 19:47:52ID: 15667914

it could be a lot of things...  I would first check that the drive works on another system.  If thats not an option i suggest you unplug all the other ide devices and plug only the drive in question in and see what the bios has to say about it.  That would elliminate any conflictions.  Windows assigning a drive letter could be a lot of things, I wouldn't put much creed into it.  I dont believe most laptop dvd drives have jumpers to set the ide config.  It's supposed to plug and play.  You can check the bios settings for any options surounding that drive.  Although I dont think you will find much.  A dvd drive is a pretty basic thing and should work out of box.  Ofcourse there is the posibility is that the drive itself is bad.  That is why it would be nice to have another system to test in.  Where you were having trouble with the previous drive it is posible that (likely if you cant get the drive to work on that system doing any of the previous suggestions) the ide controller inside the laptop or the power supply to that drive is bad.  The only way to tell would be to plug in a drive you know works.  Or send it back to the manufacturer.  Unfortunatly, with a laptop there arent many options for an average user to test the internals.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-01-10 at 22:14:24ID: 15668338

Many, if not most, laptop optical drives do not have master/slave/CS jumpers or switches.   (I've looked at the three drives that I have -- and NONE of them have such a switch.)   They are instead shipped with a default setting of Cable Select.

In the case of your Toshiba, the drive needs to be set as Master.  Unfortunately, there is no jumper to do that.   In some cases, there is a firmware revision for the drive that will set it to what you want ==> this is for the DRIVE and NOT the computer.   You didn't say what you replaced the Matsushita with, so I couldn't determine if there is such an update for your drive => you may want to check the manufacturer's web site and see if you can find one.

But there's another way.  Pin 47 of the 50-pin interface for these drives is the Device Config (CSEL) pin.  If you ground this pin, the drive will be set as Master.   Pins 43, 44, and 45 are all grounds - so you can simply short pins 45 & 47 and you'll have a Master device.   This is NOT hard, but it IS delicate.   While it's possible to do this on the connector end, it's a LOT easier to do it "inside" the drive, which requires removing the drive's cover.   Just be very cautious and you should have no problem with this => just solder a thin copper wire between those two pins and you're ready to go.   If you're not skilled at soldering, find a friend who is -- this is a fairly delicate "operation."

The following site (in German, but has good pictures) shows what you need to do:  
http://www.dschen.de/laptop_brenner/

 

by: RoadWarriorPosted on 2006-01-11 at 04:35:15ID: 15669718

A glob of conductive paint between the two pins will probably work also, if you're not keen on soldering it.

 

by: marathonman330Posted on 2006-01-11 at 04:52:53ID: 15669794

garycase:

I replaced the Matsushita with the exact same model Matsushita.  Please let me know if there is a firmware update that sets it to Master.  Thank you.

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-01-11 at 07:55:28ID: 15671540

No guarantees, but this MAY work for you:
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=25628&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=9665132e7c121867b5cef17a88a674e8

If not, I think you need to solder the jumper I noted above.   I've done this for a friend, and it works fine (you do need reasonable soldering skills).

 

by: marathonman330Posted on 2006-01-11 at 08:06:52ID: 15671699

garycase:

Thank you for the link.  The procedure creates a bootable CD to update the firmware.  If the system apparently can't access the drive how can this work?

 

by: garycasePosted on 2006-01-11 at 08:18:56ID: 15671864

As I said, it MAY work => it apparently did for the poster in the forum I linked to.   The utility he refers to may access the driver in a different way than the BIOS.   You simply won't know unless you try it.

Personally, I think the best fix here is to jumper the pins.

 

by: AtX_dBPosted on 2006-01-11 at 13:27:23ID: 15675579

i'd check the bios settings and set them to their default values. worth a shot n no soldering.

dB

 

by: marathonman330Posted on 2006-04-07 at 17:08:49ID: 16405283

I am sorry for abandoning the question.  I was able to return the original drive and get my money back.  I don't know why it wasn't working.  The person who sold it to me insists it worked for him when I returned it and I believe him.  I don't have the soldering skills to try some of the suggested solutions.  I purchased a new drive from an authorized Toshiba service center.  It only came last week.  It is working fine.  Thank you for your help.  I am in favor of awarding points to everyone who tried to help.

 

by: rindiPosted on 2006-04-07 at 20:44:15ID: 16405947

Please close the Q and award points yourself.

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