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Team Qlogic 1gb Ethernet Nic's in HP Proliant BL460c g6

Asked by: purplecables

We have a HP Blade system, and are having trouble getting the Qlogic Nics in each server to team.  We have downloaded the HP Utility, and have the other four Nics in the server teamed through the HP Network Software, and that is working fine.  The Qlogic Nics do not show up in the HP software selections.  I found some software called Qlogic San Surfer, but I can't seem to find a way in this software to get the teaming to work.  Just for background information, our blade servers are connected by two of their switches to our LeftHand SAN.  The Qlogic Nics in the servers provide the connections to the SAN.

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Answers

 

by: meyersdPosted on 2009-10-18 at 18:07:52ID: 25602140

That's because they're not NICs. QLogic adapters are Fibre Channel HBA (Host Bus Adapters - you'll see them in Devicer Manager under SCSI adapters) . They run the Fibre Channel protocol which is a very different beast from Ethernet. You connect the FC HBAs to Fibre Channel switches, and each HBA (which will be either 4Gb/s or 8Gb/sec depending on what you've purchased) runs independently - they are not teamed.

Alternatively, you may have iSCSI HBAs which do run on Ethernet, but are not teamed either.

 

by: meyersdPosted on 2009-10-18 at 18:12:36ID: 25602154

I'd suggest that if you have no experience with setting up a storage network and SAN storage appliance that you hire HP (or the partner you purchased them from) to implement it for you. There are *SO* many ways you can get the configuration and implementation completely wrong that it will cost you less to pay for the professional services to have it done for you.

 

by: purplecablesPosted on 2009-10-18 at 19:41:40ID: 25602356

Thanks, but the professional HP recommended could not help with most of it, and flat out told us that, so for now until we find someone else we are on our own.  Anyways, they are Ethernet adapters for iSCI, just like the title of the post says.  You mentioned that these are not teamed either, why is that?

 

by: meyersdPosted on 2009-10-19 at 01:46:13ID: 25603477

Sorry - QLogic adapters are not Ethernet adapter. SANSurfer is the utility you use to configure them. QLogic make a 10Gb Ethernet adapter, but not a 1Gb one. They also make a Converged Network Adapter (CNA), but again, that's 10Gb, not 1Gb.

The QLogic iSCSI adapters are HP model number 488074-B21, QLogic QMH4062. You'll find them under SCSI adapters in Device Manager. Drivers, firmware and BIOS are here: http://driverdownloads.qlogic.com/QLogicDriverDownloads_UI/Product_detail.aspx?oemid=21. You don't team iSCSI adapters because you can't. You provide iSCSI reiliency at the SAN and network level, not at the adapter. One of the reasons is host processor load handling teaming, TCP/IP work for storage traffic and iSCSI processing is a bit of an ask.

 

by: andyalderPosted on 2009-10-19 at 06:01:26ID: 25604735

Meyersd is correct, you don't team iSCSI HBAs.

The HP LeftHand P4000 Windows Solution Pack contains MPIO DSM but it doesn't support iSCSI HBAs with MPIO. http://h20195.www2.hp.com/V2/GetPDF.aspx/4AA2-5654ENW.pdf

Because of how LeftHand does Network RAID their Device Specific Module isn't a simple load balancing one, it knows which LeftHand box to ask for the data.

I'd have a word with whoever recommended you use iSCSI HBAs.

 

by: purplecablesPosted on 2009-10-19 at 06:30:43ID: 25604954

The cards do indeed show up under network adapters in Device Manager, and they say 1GB, here is a screen shot.  

We already have the NICS and everything else configured on the LeftHand SAN, what we were hoping to accomplish with teaming the Server NICS, is to achieve fault tolerance if one of the NICS connected to the SAN network dies.  It would be great if we could increase throughput, but mostly looking for fault tolerance.

It also may help you to know that our SAN environment is completely segmented from our production network and VLANs, so while we have the other NICs in the server teamed they have no way of reaching the SAN, only the Qlogic have a connection on the same network as the SAN.

 

by: meyersdPosted on 2009-10-19 at 15:51:44ID: 25609670

This is a snip from the guide andyalder referenced:
"1 BIOS 1.14, iSCSI Firmware 3.0.1.49, STOR Miniport 2.1.4.19; boot from SAN support
2 Supports multiple network interfaces; iSCSI HBAs are not supported"

It lloks like you need to ask some very hard questions of your supplier as from the details we have, you've been sold an unsupported solution.

The screenshot looks like W2K8. Under W2K3 and earlier, iSCSI adapters appeared under Storage adapters - that may well have changed. I'd suggest you download the HP-approved drivers from here: http://driverdownloads.qlogic.com/QLogicDriverDownloads_UI/Product_detail.aspx?oemid=21 and install them. You should also download the HP-approved firmware and HBA BIOS and install them, too.

MPIO (Multi-Path I/O: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipath_I/O) provides the necessary fault tolerance and high-availability in a SAN environment - you simply don't use teaming as it is unnecessary - MPIO provides that funtionaility.

 

by: meyersdPosted on 2009-10-19 at 15:55:43ID: 25609697

>It also may help you to know that our SAN environment is completely segmented from our production network and VLANs, so while we have the other NICs in the server teamed they have no way of reaching the SAN, only the Qlogic have a connection on the same network as the SAN.

Which is good - storage traffic should be, at a minimum, in its own VLAN. In an ideal world, it should be on its own switches as storage traffic can be very demanding.

 

by: meyersdPosted on 2009-10-19 at 21:05:29ID: 25610998

Thanks! Glad I could help.

 

by: andyalderPosted on 2009-10-20 at 01:42:40ID: 25611987

Just to confirm, the iSCSI HBA is supported, but not with MPIO.

 

by: purplecablesPosted on 2009-10-20 at 06:13:24ID: 25613693

I have no confirmation yet, but have found that MPIO does handle the fault tolerance instead of teaming the NICs.  I'll know more about it later in the week we we are having the second Blade expert come in and assist us and post back then.

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