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How do I connect my "wired ethernet adapter" notebook computer to my "wireless network"?(I need step-by-step instructions please.)

My home network looks like this:
I have RoadRunner Cable modem.
Win XP Home connects the cable modem with Linksys WRT54G Router....Win XP Pro connects with Linksys WUSB54G network adapter.
 Which works well most of the time.

 I would like to add my notebook, Win 98 SE with Linksys USB100M Adapter, wired to Win XP Pro.

I need help, I followed all instructions, but I need to see something like a road map.  To know where something isn't right, then check the next step.  Etc, and  a way to determine how to improve and fine tune my network for optium performace.
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there should be a LAN port on the router, connect the laptop to it with a straight thru cat5 cable
and the router should then give the correct ip info
but if not, then on the machine that works go to a prompt and type
ipconfig /all
and post the results here, and I can tell you how to set a static ip
I would think if you can access the internet on your wireless, XP installed system then you would just need to plug the win98 laptop into the router....set the network tcp/ip properties to use DHCP to inherit all network settings.

Make sure in "internet explorer" on the Win98 machine that you tell it to "use lan connection" to access the internet, instead of dial-out.

And as the other guy said, type ipconfig /all from a command prompt (start, run, type 'command'). Let us know what IP settings your Win98 PC is receiving.

Generally speaking, the linksys router would default to IP 192.168.0.1, so from your XP machine (i.explorer) you could type http://192.168.0.1 and that would get you into the router setup. You can examine settings from there too, and make changes if needed.

-z-
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Thanks stevenlewis, and ZabagaR,
 for your feedback but I not as advanced as you are.  Please take your time, to go step-by-step and what to expect at each point.  I do have laptop Win98 machine as lan and not dail-up.  But I'm I suppose to type ipconfig at a C:\ prompt on laptop?   When I try to connect the laptop to one of the four connections to the router with cat5.  I don't know what to do next.  When I go to http://192.168.1.1 which is correct for this router, I don't know what tab or area to select to make changes for the laptop.  Right now I have the laptop connected via Linksys100m adapter via cat5 to one of four cat5 internet connections on the router.  Sorry for my ignorance.Thanks Ted
>>But I'm I suppose to type ipconfig at a C:\ prompt
yes
Now if your laptop is configured to recieve ip info automatically then it should get correct ip info
and should be reflected in the ipconfig results
when you type
http://192.168.1.1
does it open the router logon page? if so, then it is connected tot he router and getting the correct ip info
you shuld then be able to surf to here
let us know where you are in regards to this
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Hi,
I shut down to restart in MS-DOS, at " C:\ipconfig all" and tryed C:\ipconfigall"  in both cases I got message can not run  from MS-DOS mode.

Then I reboot, in Win98 mode, I went to Run and type "C:\ipconfig"  and then tryed "C:\ipconfig all", and "C:\ipcongall" all three gave this message-  "can not find the filec\ipconfig (or one of its componests) Make sure filename and path are correct and that all required libraires are available."

Does this info help? Thanks Ted
that is not how to run the command
first it won't run in ms dos
you open a dos prompt from start -->programs -->dos prompt
this will open the dos box
then at the prompt type
ipconfig /all
note the space and the forward slash
computer commands must be typed exactly
Heres the results:
**Note just to get on the net sooner then update software online I've connected the laptop to the WUSB54G wireless adapter.

Windows 98 IP Configuration

Host Name.................................LAPTOP
DNS Servers.......................
Node Type..................................Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID................
IP Routing Enabled......................Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled....................No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS.......No


0 Ethernet adapter:
Description..................................Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter
Physical Address..........................00-0c-41-de-7a-65
DHCP Enabled..............................No
IP Adress....................................192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask...............................255.255.255.0
Default Gateway..........................:
Primary Wins Server...................:
Secondary Wins Server...............:
Lease Obtained...........................:
Lease Expires.............................:



I hope this helps, Thanks Ted
>> Ethernet adapter:
Description..................................Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter
Physical Address..........................00-0c-41-de-7a-65
DHCP Enabled..............................No
IP Adress....................................192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask...............................255.255.255.0
You have the ip address set to the same as the router, and this can't be, each ip must be unique
Although I'm sure you have both been helpful, as mention at the begining I need step-by-step road map full explainsion or otherwise I am left with useless information I don't know how to apply.  I appreciate your input but so far none is helpful for me at my low level of skill with computers.  You are assuming I'm knowlegable, I am not, or very little.  Anyways thanks for your efforts. Ted Runyon
OK, I'll slow down a bit
right click on network neighborhood
choose properties
highlight the tcp for ethernet adapter
choose properties
click the ip address tab
change the 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2
click OK out of there, reboot and do the ipconfig /all again and post here
You can also try (don't knwo if dhcp is disabled or not) to click opbtain ip address automatically from the ip address tab referenced in my last post
I'm hoping it is, so then the settings will be set automatically
As Steven Lewis said, use DHCP.  Your Linksys router by default provides IP by DHCP.

Right click network neighborhood
Pick Properties
Click TCP/IP -> Linksys USB 100M adapter
Click Properties

Choose "Obtain IP address automatically"
Click WINS configuration tab.  Pick "use DHCP"
Click GATEWAY tab and make sure it's empty.
For now, leave the DNS tab alone.
CLICK OK to finish
Reboot

After startup:
Click START
Choose RUN
Type COMMAND [press enter]
At the dos prompt type IPCONFIG /ALL [press enter]
Make note of your IP ADDRESS, DEFAULT GATEWAY.

Type EXIT to quit

Try it out and let us know the results.

-z-
When I clicked on "Network Neighborhood" and highlight Linksys Adapter, click on properties.
These are the tabs available to select from:

Driver Type
Bindings
Advanced

I don't see  a tab labled "IP Address".
Ted, you didn't read closely enough, I didn't say click on the adapter, I said click on tcp for the adapter
highlight the tcp for ethernet adapter
choose properties
click the ip address tab
change the 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.2
click OK out of there, reboot and do the ipconfig /all again and post here
If you insist on manually inputting your IP info, don't forget to have an entry for Default Gateway.  In your post above, you typd out your ip, subnet mask, but the gateway was empty.  That should be the address of your router, which I believe is 192.168.1.1

FYI - At home, I have 2 desktops and 2 laptops connected to my linksys router.....desktops are wired, laptops are wireless.  One of the machines is Windows 98.  So, I can rather easily help you out.

-z-
Thanks again for your, I'm starting to see light.  My most recent result for "IPCONFIG /ALL"

Host name..............................:LAPTOP
DNS Servers...........................:
Node Type..............................:Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID....................:
IP Routing Enabled...................:Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled.................:No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS....:No


0Ethernet adapter:

Description..............................:Linksys Compact USB Network Adapter

Physical Address......................:00-10-60-E8-65-FF
DHCP Enabled..........................:Yes
IP Address...............................:169.254.52.144
Subnet Mask............................:255.255.0.0
Default Gateway.......................:
DHCP Server............................:255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server................:
Secondary WINS Server............:
Lease Obtained........................:12 05 04 9:27:31 AM
Lease Expires...........................:
IP Address...............................:169.254.52.144
this is an APIPA address (automatic private  ip address)
this means it is not getting an ip from the dhcp server of the router
try setting it to 192.168.1.10
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
enable dns and use 192.168.1.1
then go to a dos prompt
start -->prgrams -->ms dos prompt
and type
ping 192.168.1.1 (hit enter)
tell us what happens
Results "C:\ ping 192.168.1.1" enter

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost 4 <100% loss>,
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
OK, triple check the ip settings and make sure they match EXACTLY to what I told you to put in
If so, then try replacing the cable (do the link lights light up, the little led lights on the NIC and on the router) these show some connectivity
are there any firewalls installed?
also on one of the working machines
do an ipcopnfig /all
and post the results here please
Go into the DEVICE MANAGER in WINDOWS 98 (right click my computer, pick properties....sorry Win98 not in front of me now).  Check the NETWORK ADAPTERS section.  Click the + next to it.  Make sure your USB Linksys Adapter has been installed correctly.  No yellow exclamation point or red x on it.

These are the results with Win XP Pro, using Linksys  WUSB54G.

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AMD
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Adapter

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-4A-E0D5
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.46.161
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::250:8dff:fe4a:e0d5%4
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter #2
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-DE-7A65
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::20c:41ff:fede:7a65%6
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.25.195.2
                                            24.25.195.3
                                            24.25.195.1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 06, 2004 10:12:00 AM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:12:00AM

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%5
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : A9-FE-2E-A1
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:169.254.46.161%2
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2
        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-65
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.101%2
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

..........................Thanks,Ted......................................
Steven and Zabaga,
In Device Manager the Adapter is clear from having yellow examation point, nor red x. Clicking on properites the status is device is working.
Note the info from Win XP Pro. I'll go to the Win XP Home machine  connected to router and provide the ipconfig /all and post it next 10 mins.
Thanks Ted
OK, then the static ip info I gave yo is correct
set the 98 box to static, and use teh settings I gave you
192.168.1.10
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
enable dns and use 192.168.1.1
and if ping fails (it did before)
 triple check the ip settings and make sure they match EXACTLY to what I told you to put in
If so, then try replacing the cable (do the link lights light up, the little led lights on the NIC and on the router) these show some connectivity
are there any firewalls installed?
Steven,
Here are results with Win XP Home with WRT54G router.


Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : TED2GHZ
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-2B-2F-26-09
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::240:2bff:fe2f:2609%4
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.25.195.2
                                            24.25.195.3
                                            24.25.195.1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 06, 2004 7:13:57 AM

        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:13:57 AM

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%5
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-01-64
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.100%2
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
                                            fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
        NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


Yes I do have firewalls on all computers, should I shut them down or uninstall them? I'll also follow your instructions,  as you recommend.  I'll be back with results.
.....................................................Thanks, Ted..........................................
>>Yes I do have firewalls on all computers, should I shut them down or uninstall them?
Yes, these will interfere, especially while troubleshooting
OK, so let me sum up:

Manual IP on Win98 PC. (the addressing looks fine to me).
Cable is good.
No problem with the driver or network card listed in Win98.
Can't ping router.

First uou should do as StevenLewis says and disable firewall software on the Win98 PC.

If everything seems to check out and you still can't ping your router [def.gateway] then I suggest you remove TCP/IP, reboot, then re-add it.  I've seen the TCP/IP stack become corrupt on Win98 and then it needs to be re-installed.

Do you need to know how to remove TCP/IP? (then re-add it). You *may* need the Win98 CD (unless you have the installation files on your hard drive)

- You get to the point of viewing it where you were before (right click net.neighborhood, properties).
- Scroll down to TCP/IP then click the REMOVE (or is it DELETE) box.
- Reboot
- Go back to Net Neighborhood Properties & Click ADD.  Add a protocol. Choose microsoft TCP/IP.
- Add the values back for IP address, subnet, gateway OR use DHCP [automatic addressing] instead.

Try to ping 192.168.1.1

z
What's the scoop, chief ?
Hi Steven and Z,
I just deleted tcp/ip for the Linksys adapter, restarted, reinstalled and sent ping 192.168.1.1, got same results that all 4 transmission failed.

Thanks,Ted
Ted, after the removal- reinstall, did you reset the static ip info?
ip 192.168.1.10
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
we will worry about dns after we can ping the router
Steven,
Yes I re-entered:
 ip 192.168.1.10
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
ping 192.168.1.1

this time this how it reads.

C:\>ping 192.168.1.1

Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 < 100% loss>,
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minium = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms,  Average = 0ms


When I go to "My Network" on the Win XP machine, shouldn't I see the laptop listed.  because I only see the XP Pro connected via WUSB54G adapter, and the XP home connected to WRT54G router.

On the laptop, in "Network Neighborhood" I see only Laptop. This machine using Win 98.

I was wondering if that give more info to help you.
Thanks Ted
All machines are in the same workgroup


Enable NetBios over TCP/IP in WIndows XP

Step 1: Turn On NetBIOS over TCP/IP

Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click Network and Internet Connections.

Click Network Connections.

Right-click Local Area Connection, and then click Properties.

Click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP), and then click Properties.

Click the General tab, and then click Advanced.

Click the WINS tab.

Under NetBIOS setting, click Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP, and then click OK two times.

Click Close to close the Local Area Connection Properties dialog box.

Close the Network Connections window.

Step 2: Start the Computer Browser Service

Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Manage.

In the console tree, expand Services and Applications.

Click Services.

In the right details pane, verify that the Computer Browser service is started, right-click Computer Browser, and then click Start.

Close the Computer Management window.
Do this and let me know what it says:

Right Click "My network neighborhood"
Pick Properties.

List all the network items installed (network cards, protocols, services) (i.e. network card, tcp/ip, file&print sharing, etc)

I want to see if you have anything interfering with your connection.

*I may ask you to manually set the network adapter speed to 10mbps. (will walk you thru that at some point down the road).
Steven,  I've followed your step-by-step instructions.
Then I ping 192.168.1.1 on the laptop, and the ping failed again.  

Z,  I went to "Network Neighborhood",Doubled Clicked on "Entire Network". Got this message RED X message.
---------------------------------------------------
Netwprl Neighborhood

RED X       Unable to browse the network.

                The network is not accessible.
                 For more information, look in Help Index
                 at the topic 'Network Troubleshooter"

                                      OK
_____________________________________________

I just went to 'Network Troubleshooter' on the laptop, as I followed the steps, I was asked to check how the workgroup appears.  On the laptop shows name:Laptop, and Workgroup:mshome.  Wonder why when I click on 'Entire Network' I get the Red X message.
Thanks, Ted
         
               
OK, sounds like either the NIC is bad, the cable is bad, or the port in the router is bad
On the laptop, the way it is now
go to a prompt and type
ipconfig /all > c:\ipcon.txt
then find c:\ipcon.txt
copy it to a floppy
put the floppy in the machine that works (can connect to the internet) and open in notepad and paste the contents here
Windows 98 IP Configuration

Host Name....................................:Laptop
DNS Servers..................................:192.168.1.1
Node Type....................................:Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID..........................:
IP Routing Enabled.........................:Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled......................:No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS.........:Yes

0 Ethernet Adapter:

Description...................................:Linksys Compact USB Network Adapter


Physical Address...........................:10-60-R8-65-FF
DHCP Enabled...............................:No
IP Address....................................:192.168.1.10
Subnet Mask.................................:255.255.255.0
Default Gateway............................:192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server.....................:
Secondary WINS Server.................:
Lease Obtained.............................:
Lease Expired...............................:

_________________________
I don't know how to copy to floppy, so I just typed it here.
Just wondering, but a thought.  I noticed the HOST....LAPTOP, Souldn't the LAPTOP be a guest? and the HOST the computer the laptop is connected to?  Just want to learn as I go.
Thanks Ted
Steven, or Z,

I also have a NULL cable would it be useful to make a DCC?  What do you think?

Ted
>>Just wondering, but a thought.  I noticed the HOST....LAPTOP, Souldn't the LAPTOP be a guest? and the HOST the computer the laptop is connected to?  Just want to learn as I go.

where does it say host laptop?
Oh, I see, no in a peer to peer, that is just it's name, there is no host or guest
mine says theis
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : dell.rmrc.net
please see here, and follow the steps
http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxpwin9x.htm
??????
How did that solve the problem?
Steven and Z,
 I appolgize I can't even give the points correctly.  I didn't mean to give all the points to Z, I was attemping to give Z about 150, and Steven I menat to give you 350.  Sorry for the mistake, it doesn't seem I can change it now that I've entered it, even if its based on a mistake.Ted
Ted,

Please post the solution (detail if possible).
Bottom line : you're working.  that's great!

-regards,
me, the xmas yak.

p.s. i'll consider the extra points a christmas gift.  although I busted my butt for a 'b'....i feel like i'm back in university.
I'm not working, but I felt it was taking me too long to go through the info Steven had me link to, I do appreciate the help from both and appologize for my error.
Thanks again, I'm counting on the link to solve the problem, but it may take me a  couple weeks to go through it all.