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Problem with using Keepalive on GRE Tunnel through NAT

Asked by: PHFrench

I'll start with what I'm trying to accomplish.  I have two tunnels on a router connecting back to two separate routers at my central location across two separate internet ISPs via a DMVPN.  Both tunnels connect and share dynamic routing information appropriately and work in every aspect they should.

I want one of those tunnels (Tun1) to be a backup for the other one (Tun0) so that Tun1 is only active in the event Tun0 goes down.  I am currently using the Backup command to make Tun1 the backup interface for Tun0.  The problem with tunnels is that they always show up even if they don't have connectivity to the other end.  This means I just need to use Keepalive on the primary tunnel so it checks to see if it has connectivity to the destination IP.  The problem I encounter is the destination IP address is NAT'd at my central location, so the Keepalive packet never makes it to the router terminating the VPN tunnel since the address in the Keepalive packet doesn't get translated.  This means the tunnel is brought down until the Keepalive command is removed.

Does anyone know of a work-around for this issue or another way to go about building two tunnels where one is primary and the other is a backup?

Here is a simple diagram of where the devices live in reference to each other:
[Central VPN Router] --- [ASA Firewall] --- [Internet] --- [Remote Router w/two tunnels]

Here's the router config for Tun0 (Tun1 is practically the same without the backup commands):

interface Tunnel0
 backup delay 0 120
 backup interface Tunnel1
 ip address 172.168.1.10 255.255.255.0
 ip helper-address 192.168.1.100
 ip mtu 1400
 ip nhrp authentication password
 ip nhrp map 192.168.100.1 700.700.700.700
 ip nhrp map multicast 700.700.700.700
 ip nhrp network-id 100
 ip nhrp holdtime 300
 ip nhrp nhs 192.168.100.1
 ip tcp adjust-mss 1360
 ip ospf authentication message-digest
 ip ospf message-digest-key 10 md5 7 encryptedpw
 ip ospf network broadcast
 tunnel source FastEthernet8
 tunnel destination 700.700.700.700
 tunnel key 100
 tunnel protection ipsec profile DMVPN

The 700.700.700.700 is the internet ip of our VPN router made available via a NAT'd internal address on our ASA.

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2009-06-04 at 09:40:44ID24464296
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Answers

 

by: naveedbPosted on 2009-06-07 at 11:38:42ID: 24567570

If you are using dynamic routing, the correct method would be to configure routing in way that Tunnel-0 is preferred route for your traffic. When it goes down, the traffic would be switched over to Tunnel-1.

 

by: PHFrenchPosted on 2009-06-07 at 12:16:44ID: 24567718

I can make either tunnel preferred, however I was trying to only have a single tunnel active at a time.  It looks like it won't be doable.

 

by: naveedbPosted on 2009-06-08 at 10:39:08ID: 24574416

It might be, but we will need to look at the configs for all devices. Normally if you are able to send/receive traffic through VPN, you should be able to do the same with ICMP traffic (keepalives). If it is being blocked somewhere, that would need to be fixed. The configuration you have posted so far looks good and doesn't look like it needs to be changed to fix the keepalives issue.

 

by: PHFrenchPosted on 2009-06-08 at 10:47:52ID: 24574489

The problem is with the Keepalive packet itself in a NAT situation.  My research has revealed that the target address does not get translated by NAT devices because the packet itself is encrypted due to the VPN tunnel.

Keepalive ends up bringing the tunnel down 100% of the time because it always goes to a non-existant address (the external one), and that is what I experience on my routers.  The tunnel destination is the NAT'd address that the Keepalive packet uses (good for tunnel, bad for Keepalive), but Keepalive needs to be using the internal address of the device which it never knows.

The fundamental problem with what I'm doing is that NAT devices do not translate Keepalive packets because the packet is encrypted preventing the NAT device from inspecting the packet.  I was hoping for a work-around or alternate solution that gets around this limitation of Keepalive/NAT.

 

by: PHFrenchPosted on 2009-06-08 at 10:53:55ID: 24574554

Let me correct my last paragraph of the previous post...

The fundamental problem with what I'm doing is that Keepalive packets on a tunnel use the tunnel destination as their destination IP.  If it was configurable, then I could just tell it to Keepalive against the internal IP address of the VPN device on the other end.

I keep having to fight off the thought that NAT can do anything here.  The traffic is encrypted preventing a NAT device from doing anything with it.  The real problem is a limitation of Keepalive or the assumption Cisco makes that it will always need to talk with the IP address of the tunnel destination.

 

by: naveedbPosted on 2009-06-08 at 12:57:58ID: 24575708

It is not a limitation of Cisco, if you do want to use the Internal IP addresses, you can do that. Instead of using "tunnel protection ipsec profile " under the tunnel interface, configure crypto maps and apply them to Physical Interfaces to encrypt Tunnel traffic. This will allow you to use Internal IP addresses for Tunnel interfaces and keepalives will also use Internal IP Addresses.

 

by: PHFrenchPosted on 2009-06-08 at 13:12:11ID: 24575822

Hmm...I'll have to see what I can come up with using that approach.  I'll let you know the results.

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