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Layer 3 Switching with WAN Failover

Asked by: mizgroup

Hey there,

I need some help determining which L3 switch I need to use. My goal is as follows. I have an internet connection, either a t1, cable, or dsl and a router, either a sonicwall or a netgear fvs. That router is connected to my layer 3 switch and distributes internet to everybody on the switch. Now I would like to implement another internet connection for failover. However I do not want to have the failover at the router. I would like to have the failover at the switch. Is this possible and what type of hardware do i have to have to accomplish this? Thank you for your advice.

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2009-11-06 at 08:58:55ID24878516
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by: mikecrPosted on 2009-11-06 at 11:00:53ID: 25761982

I wouldn't do that from the LAN switch side, I would do that from the router side that the internet connections are plugged into. Using a Cisco 1760/1721/1841, etc, router, you can use the tracking feature in the IOS so that if you lose an internet connection, your default route will change and go out your redundant connection.

If you were to do it from the LAN side, the client has no way of knowing if the internet connection is down so you wouldn't be able to configure multiple gateways on your clients workstations and get it to work.

The Cisco switches do a limited type of tracking but you would probably need at least a 3560 model which would be 10 times more than the router would cost even with the appropriate WAN cards.

 

by: ikalmarPosted on 2009-11-06 at 21:16:58ID: 25765094

HI,


what type of switch do you have?

It seems the IP SLA solution is good for you....

Best regards,
Istvan

 

by: mizgroupPosted on 2009-11-07 at 16:01:53ID: 25768729

I do not currently have a switch. I am looking to purchase one that will satisfy those requirements. Any ideas? Thanks

 

by: lrmoorePosted on 2009-11-08 at 05:16:50ID: 25770367

Agree with Mikecr above. The cost factor of having an intelligent L3 switch doing the routing is not justifiable when you have to have another router anyway to do the NAT.
You might look into multi WAN capable firewalls.
If you are looking for physical redundancy of your Internet connections, then you will still have a single point of failure at the switch.

 

by: mizgroupPosted on 2009-11-09 at 06:35:35ID: 25776224

I have other reasons for having the L3 switch. Can somebody suggest a model? Thanks.

 

by: ikalmarPosted on 2009-11-09 at 07:07:17ID: 25776489

how many ports do you need, what is the budget?

 

by: lrmoorePosted on 2009-11-09 at 18:23:54ID: 25781918

Cisco 3560 in 24 or 48 port, with or without PoE and probably "E" for Enhanced L3 routing
10/100 version2
List pricing..
WS-C3560V2-24TS-E  Catalyst 3560V2 24 10/100 + 2 SFP + IPS (Enhanced) Image  D  USD 4,990.00

10/100/1000
WS-C3560G-24TS-E  Catalyst 3560 24 10/100/1000T + 4 SFP + IPS (Enhanced) Image  D  USD 8,790.00  

 

by: mizgroupPosted on 2009-11-09 at 20:19:29ID: 25782365

Thank you for the info. Is there any comparable models with other brands such as hp or netgear? thanks

 

by: mizgroupPosted on 2009-11-10 at 18:05:59ID: 25791811

will the 3560-8PC accomadate my wan failover need?

 

by: lrmoorePosted on 2009-11-10 at 18:39:34ID: 25791933

As far as I can tell the 8 port model does not come in Enhanced IP version, so won't suppor things like IP SLA's, or Policy Based Routing which will be the core of your solution.
I don't mean to question your motives, experience level, or expertise, but I feel like you are trying to shove a square peg into a round hole with a very expensive price tag.
We do this all the time with very expensive core routers with full L3 capabilities, like Cat6500's, but generally not with small switches.
If you could post even a crude drawing of what you have now and what you envision as your end-state, perhaps we can help you get to a working solution that is cost-effective for you.
Unfortunately, I have zero experience with other brand switches. I stick with what I know best. Perhaps other experts may have more experience with other brand L3 switches.

I still maintain that a router with multiple Ethernet ports, or even a Cisco ASA 5505 (8-port switch embedded) may do the trick.

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