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Cisco 1841 LAN to LAN config...

Asked by: stagetech

So I have a number of networks (VLANs) in same building:

Main LAN - 10.10.1.0 - this also has routes to 10.10.4.0, 10.10.19.0, 10.10.20.0 & 10.10.21.0
VoIP LAN - 10.10.10.0

Cisco needs to live here and route only 10.10.1.0 & 10.10.10.0 to below based on MAC address of machine...

Dev LAN - 192.168.1.0
Dirty LAN - 172.16.1.0

Not sure if i have explained that clearly... So i get the idea that the Eth0 has an IP on 10.10.1.0 and Eth1 is on say 192.168.1.0 - but how do i config an ACL to rejet requests based on MAC? Or id that a non starter? probably best to ignore the other networks for now and concentrate on the ACL question!

Do I recall Cisco making a config builder wizard thing years ago...?

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2008-05-20 at 09:59:11ID23417984
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by: atlas_shudderedPosted on 2008-05-20 at 12:10:44ID: 21609272

Routers will not handle traffic based on mac addy.  The only mac addresses available to your router are the one for the next hop interface and the address of the sending interface.  These are used for next hop connectivity at the interface level only and are otherwise "unrecognized" by your router.

One potential way around your problem would be to use VLANs and static DHCP assignments.  You could segment your address space further, vlan these segments and route between using virtual interfaces.  Group your devices by access role into the subnet pools and then use ACL's to further control traffic/access.  At this level you could control traffic based on subnet, range or individually, also dependent on traffic type.

If you really wanted to control the environment and you don't mind it being highly manual, you could assign DHCP addressing via static maps to mac addy.  I guess this would go back to what the importance of specifically identifying the device is and if you have the latitude to regroup.

 

by: Nothing_ChangedPosted on 2008-05-20 at 12:57:34ID: 21609776

Assuming you are coming into the router from a Cisco switch, you could enable mac security using static mac entries on the switchport, only allowing traffic to pass between the router and the two macs you wish to allow into the router. Then just est up IP routes to forward L3 adreses as desired, knowing the L2 hosts were "secured". This will not, of course, stop MAC spoofing if security is a concern.
 
The attached pdf is an IOS reference for a 4500 switch, but its effectively the same for the entire range of current cisco gear from 2900 series through 6500 series.

 

by: stagetechPosted on 2008-05-21 at 08:37:26ID: 21616129

Ah right so i am barking up the wrong tree using a router for this job then... The network is built on HP Procurve switches. The core being an xl5308 and the outskirts having 2626 units. I could check these for this port level secuirty i guess? See if they apply same idea as Cisco.

 

by: atlas_shudderedPosted on 2008-05-21 at 15:21:33ID: 21619538

You could but port security only allows the intended device to connect to the switchport in question.  You can still attempt using vlan's.  If limiting to specific devices in absolutely necessary you will need to look at a more robust solution besides simple ACL and vlan.  Have you considered setting up RADIUS or some other form of credential based authentication and authorization?

 

by: Nothing_ChangedPosted on 2008-05-22 at 13:08:24ID: 21627118

I believe the hp procurve does do port security, not sure though...

There are a lot of robust ways to do what you want to do, but if I read the situation right, you are trying to not buy/build anything obtrusive, but to use what you have to accomplish your ends.

As long as your network isnt too busy, another solution along the lines you are pursuing might be to put  the "allowed" users in a separate VLAN, and trunk that VLAN and the normal one up to your router. Then MAC addreses will be irrelevant, you control who goes into that VLAN. Make the switchport a trunk, use subinterfaces on the router to pull off  the tagged traffic, use the router for the vlans to get back to the rest of the network. As long as the traffic volume is relatively low of course. Full duplex is critical as well.

Another creative solution might be to use DHCP reservations to make sure your desirable MAC addresses pull the same IP addresses all the time (from outside your DHCP scope of course), then make an ACL to policy based route the traffic the way you want to...

Lots of ways to skin the cat, some better than others, some cheaper than others...

 

by: stagetechPosted on 2008-06-02 at 13:11:41ID: 21695233

am going to check this out 2moro as i am onsite.

 

by: Nothing_ChangedPosted on 2008-06-07 at 22:27:04ID: 21737622

Any luck?

 

by: stagetechPosted on 2008-06-26 at 01:09:13ID: 21872603

I have abondoned the Cisco idea and am now sticking to doing it within the HP Procuve's.

 

by: stagetechPosted on 2008-07-08 at 03:42:25ID: 31459701

First top come back with an answer that corrected all my points.

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