First Router is for VOIP [Vonage] and is not Wireless. Second Router is Wireless. I think the answer to NAT is Yes.
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Port Forwarding across multiple Routers
On my home network i have two routers, one broadband and one wireless router.
Broadband IP Address is 192.168.15.1
Wireless IP Address is 192.168.1.1
I would like to open a port through the routers to my PC. How would I be able to do this? In this example, let's say that my PC has an IP Address of 192.168.1.100 and the port I want to open is 33866.
Is there a way to forward this port from the Broadband Router to the Wireless Router?
Thank you,
jsvb1977
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i think i know where you are headed with this; and to quote Homer Simpson "I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter."
no, i suppose i do not need to have the second router as a router. Are you suggesting that I turn #2 into a dumb switch wireless access point? If so, it is a Linksys WRT54G. Would I need to install new Firmware to make that work?
Thanks
jsvb1977
Yes, but you would need the admin login to the Vonage router and forward the port in question. You would need to set the wirelss WAN to a static address so it won't change (which would break port forwarding).
In regard to the alternatifve suggestion to "flatten" your network and plug the wireless LAN-to-LAN with the Vonage router, the wireless router does not listen with DHCP on it's LAN side, it vends out DHCP unless you disable it. So that means configuring the LAN side of the Wireless to a static IP that the Vonage router would never vend out to a PC. Then you can switch the mode of the WRT54G to bridge mode and all clients, wireless or wired would receive IPs from the vonage router. Incidentally all of the wired and wireless computers would be on the same network subnet as well.
Sorry folks, i am getting a little lost. Also, i think i need to keep the Vonage Router in front of the WRT54G.
Am I able to turn the Wireless Router into a simple Wireless Access Point? I could then modify the Vonage Router's IP Address Range to be that of 192.168.1.1 instead of its current 192.168.15.1.
So, could it look something like this?::
Modem >
Vonage [192.168.1.1] >
WRT54G Access Point >
192.168.1.x
192.168.1.y
192.168.1.z
etc...
-jsvb1977
The vonage router has a factory default config that allows VoIP to work, so resetting to defaults should not mess up your phone lines if you have to use the factory reset button. Otherwise a call to Vonage support will restore connectivity (Vonage has remote access to their router).
Internet---[Vonage Router(bridge)]--[Wireless
The vonage router has bridge mode specifically for this situation (you already have a firewall in the wireless router). Just think of the Vonage router as phone lines only and that passes the Internet through to your wireless router.
The wireless becomes you gateway to the Internet with all of your clients, wired and wireless behind it. The wireless router would handle DHCP. Port forwarding would be managed by the wireless router because the Vonage device would not block anything except UDP(RTP) ports used inbound for VoIP.
The only port(s) you might not be able to port forward would be the inbound port(s) Vonage uses for VoIP because they will terminate at the Vonage device and not be forwarded through.
Vonage router provisioned before before 2005 = 5061/udp
provisioned after 2005 = 10000-20000/udp
Provisioning happens at intitial install.
ok -- i am going to pull the trigger on setting the RT31P2 vonage router in bridge mode. I logged into the router but did not see any obvious "settings" for "bridge mode". I am searching google right now to find out how but if anyone has the method to set the RT31P2 into bridge mode please let me know.
Thanks,
Jason
thinking about following this thread -- the last post at the bottom of the page is what i might do. Any thoughts on the method posted in this vonage forum?
http://www.vonage-forum.co
Do NOT follow that! That link is from 2005 and is outdated.
I see it's a Linksys router, just leave that router the way it is, take the wireless router and change it's LAN address to something within the same range as the vonage router, ie 192.168.15.2 (or something of that matter), disable DHCP on the wireless router and plug the Vonage router into one of the wireless router's "LAN" Ports, NOT THE WAN PORT. That will make the wireless router an access point. You can use the remaining 3 ports on the wireless router for anything you want, and don't forget to setup the wireless settings.
I would prefer to leave my network in the 192.168.1.1 range since i have other gadgets and gizmos already on that range [some static IP]. Is there a way to keep the 192.168.1.1 range? Something like this:
modem > vonage [bridge mode] > wrt54g wireless [192.168.1.1] > the rest of my network.
I guess i am still unclear about how to enable "bridge mode" -- i assumed it would be a single setting in the vonage admin screens, but now i am getting the picture that it is a group of settings. If so, i need more help.
Let me know if there is anything else i can do to help you help me -- if you need me to draw a diagram, upload screenshots from the routers admin pages, anything at all -- just ask.
Thanks again for all of your help -- i apologize if i am "just not getting it"
Jason
Since you posted the model of the vonage router I saw in the past post that it is just a standard linksys router with some changes by vonage, there is no bridge mode setting. This is how to set it up.
Modem > Vonage Router:
Log into your vonage router and look at the setup page (first page you go to when logging in).
Under local ip address, set it to 192.168.1.1
That will put your vonage router on that address range.
Now, log into the wireless router,
Under the first page, set the router's Local IP address (Just like above) to 192.168.1.2 and disable DHCP.
Now plug one of the Vonage router's LAN port into the wireless router's Lan port (NOT THE WAN PORT), this will make the wireless router into an access point.
Now you're network is setup how you want
Modem ---> Vonage router (192.168.1.1) --> Linksys Wireless Router (192.168.1.2) --> Rest of your network.
That's it, very simple.
Sounds Simple Enough, I will give it a go. Another question, though....
should i rename the wireless wrt54g to 192.168.1.2 FIRST, so that there is not conflict between the IP Addresses?
In your instructions above -- i fear that naming the vonage router to 192.168.1.1 will cause conflict because the wrt54g is already set to 192.168.1.1.
Know what i am trying to say?
Jason
Further clarification: the public ip address from dsl would end up on the wan (sometimes labeled internet port) port of the wireless router. The subnet 192.168.15.x would not be used in bridge mode. What happens if you type "tracert 4.2.2.1" without the quotes in a command prompt?
(Start - Run - type cmd and hit enter)
Tracing route to vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net [4.2.2.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 162 ms 39 ms 55 ms 10.229.80.97
3 117 ms 189 ms 46 ms gateway-g2-1-250-ephblocal
4 43 ms 28 ms 50 ms gateway-t3-1-wb32eph.wb3.p
5 107 ms 83 ms 27 ms gateway2-t8-2-wb322wb3.wb3
6 138 ms 159 ms 159 ms gateway-t8-1-hzl2wb32.hzl.
7 189 ms 189 ms 282 ms gateway2-t8-2-hzl22hzl.hzl
8 284 ms 269 ms 198 ms gateway-t2-1-brh2hzl2.brh.
9 * 258 ms 121 ms gateway2-t2-2-brh22brh.brh
10 71 ms 57 ms 122 ms gateway2-t2-3-leh22brh2.le
11 87 ms 195 ms 215 ms gateway-t1-1-str2leh2.str.
12 26 ms 21 ms 23 ms gateway2-t8-2-str22str.str
13 300 ms 300 ms 202 ms gateway-t3-2-nyc2str2.nyc.
14 363 ms 165 ms 196 ms xe-7-3-0.edge1.NewYork1.Le
15 39 ms 71 ms 54 ms vlan69.csw1.NewYork1.Level
16 159 ms 213 ms 175 ms ge-2-0.core1.NewYork1.Leve
17 209 ms 202 ms 191 ms vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net [4.2.2.1]
Trace complete.
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Not sure what this is for but here it is.
Thanks,
Jason
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by: skca54Posted on 2009-09-13 at 08:55:26ID: 25320644
Why two routers? Are both setup with NAT?