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05.05.2008 at 05:59AM PDT, ID: 23376239 | Points: 500
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How to extend a WIFI signal from a nearby building throughout my home
Tags: Linksys, Wireless Router, WRT54G, Extend the signal
I would like to try and extend a wifi signal originating from a nearby building so that I can receive it via my laptop throughout my home.  Currently I can only get a good signal near the window adjacent to the building but not on the other side of the house.  There is a already a 14db directional antenna on the building pointing directly at the window.

I tried a Linksys WRE54G range extender but it cut the bandwidth down too much.  The wifi signal from the building originates from a Linksys - which I have access to.

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Zone: Computer Hardware
Question Asked By: mustangboxer
Question Asked On: 05.05.2008
Participating Experts: 5
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05.06.2008 at 12:26PM PDT, ID: 21510193

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05.08.2008 at 03:59PM PDT, ID: 21529149

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05.06.2008 at 12:26PM PDT, ID: 21510193

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When you  say, "cut the bandwidth down too much" what are you referring to?

I use a WRE54G here and don't find any difference between being connected to it or the router directly.

 
05.06.2008 at 02:02PM PDT, ID: 21511030
By using this software;
http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/index.php
with the proper wireless router, you can extend any network.

The software allows you so set up the router as a repeater or a bridge.

If you use a router with dual removable antennas, you can place an antenna outside the building and one inside the building, so that you get proper signal strength.

It is similar to the range extender that you tried.  I too wonder what you mean when you say it "cut the bandwidth down too much".  What is more likely is that you do not get as good of a signal coverage as you think.

Good Luck!
 
05.06.2008 at 02:08PM PDT, ID: 21511086

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Hi mustangboxer,

Indeed a range extender will cut the effective throughput in half due to the nature of wireless networks, so I can imagine that if the signal isn't too good the range extender will cause issues. You might want to go for another route. You say you have access to the meant router, I'm assuming hereby that you're also allowed to have access.

A good option might be to receive that signal by using a wireless bridge. From that bridge you can see it similar as any other wired network, so if you want wireless access to it, you can add another access point using a different channel to avoid interference with the original signal. If you want to separate the networks, you can even add a wireless router to that bridge to have a NAT inbetween.

Best regards,

LucF
 
05.06.2008 at 11:09PM PDT, ID: 21513497
You can use a linksys extender close to the window to then extend the signal.  
With proper setting it just needs ac outlet.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=93822&WT.mc_n=4&WT.mc_t=U&cm_ven=COMPARISON%20SHOPPING&cm_cat=GOOGLE&cm_pla=DATAFEED->PRODUCTS&cm_ite=1%20PRODUCT&cm_keycode=4
 
05.07.2008 at 07:15AM PDT, ID: 21516583
Thank you for the input.  I agree with Lucf - I tried the range expanders - they do indeed reduce the bandwidth too much...
 
Lucf - I would like to try your solution.  How does this solution affect the bandwidth?  Could you pls. give me details on how I would set up the bridge solution?  I do not believe I need a seperate the networks.

Thanks!

"A good option might be to receive that signal by using a wireless bridge. From that bridge you can see it similar as any other wired network, so if you want wireless access to it, you can add another access point using a different channel to avoid interference with the original signal"
 
05.07.2008 at 02:29PM PDT, ID: 21520505

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Hi mustangboxer,

In essence, a wireless bridge is the opposite of a wireless access point. An access point turns a wired network into a wireless one, a wireless bridge can do the opposite (in your situation) as-in, it receives a signal from a wireless network and turns it into a wired network.

A wireless network will always be influenced by interference so any wireless suggestion can't be a perfect suggestion as it depends on the situation. A wireless bridge picks up the network like any computer with a wireless card would do at the same location (unless you decide on using directional antennas for receiving the signal as they might give you a much better connection) If the received signal is good, you can do whatever you want to do with it on your wired network.
This includes attaching an Access point or wireless router.
You should see the output of a wireless bridge as an incomming connection from, for example, a modem. As long as the signal is ok, the wired connection comming from the bridge will give you loads of possible connections just as any other wired network.

Best regards,

LucF
 
05.08.2008 at 06:32AM PDT, ID: 21524464
Thanks Lucf.  I will pick up a bridge and try to connect it to the wifi signal coming from the building.  Would I need to do any special configuration - either at the building (source) or the the house or is it "typical"?
 
05.08.2008 at 03:05PM PDT, ID: 21528866
My links above are to software that can be loaded onto a linksys w series router, the ones for around $40-70.

So, you may want to check that if you find that a wireless bridge is more expensive...
 
05.08.2008 at 03:59PM PDT, ID: 21529149

Rank: Master

mustangboxer,

With a wireless bridge, you don't need to do any special configuration on the original access point. A wireless bridge connects to a network just like a network card in a computer would do.

LucF
 
05.11.2008 at 08:25AM PDT, ID: 21542663
Lucf,

I picked up a wireless bridge and was asking linksys support a couple questions.  They recommended I get a wireless access point and put it in repeater mode instead - saying it would not limit the bandwidth.  Any thoughts?

Thank you...
 
05.11.2008 at 01:22PM PDT, ID: 21543379

Rank: Master

Hi Mustangboxer,

I'm not sure what location of the Linksys support team you contacted, but I can assure you that just by the nature of the 802.11 protocol repeating the signal will cause at least 50% throughput loss. If you're in the states, you've probably contacted someone in Asia working the "graveyard-shift", most of the time they're pretty good but sometimes you run into someone who's not that experienced.

To explain it somewhat simple. A wireless signal is half-duplex as it's impossible for two devices to work on the same frequency on the same time without interference. Repeating a signal means that the device has to receive the signal (which takes a certain time) and then send it out again (taking the same amount of time) causing the 50% loss.

The reality is a bit different, but the result is the same. Repeating a signal is not a great option if you want to go for a high-throughput situation.

Getting a wireless bridge to receive the signal and then creating a new (wireless) network out of the signal received will not cause these issues as there's no device which has to wait for a timeslice of the wireless signal as a new network is created. If this new network also works wireless, but on another frequency, no interference will occur.

Regards,

LucF
 
05.11.2008 at 07:32PM PDT, ID: 21544375
Mustangboxer,

I can back up what LucF says from personal experience.  I tried to manhandle an Access Point in repeater mode for a month before throwing it out a window and buying a bridge.  Works great now...
 
05.11.2008 at 09:04PM PDT, ID: 21544595
I have used the software I mentioned before, and inexpensive consumer grade wireless routers to extend networks over 1/2 mile.
 
05.12.2008 at 06:01AM PDT, ID: 21546516
Thank you Jason and Arthur - I am going to try and get this set up this week and try it out...
 
 
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