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Killing Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN in VAIO...default 7 driver, VAIO 7 driver, VAIO Vista Driver, driver from Intel site, all failing, why?

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Before reading the question, keep that in mind that the wireless driver in the device manager has no x or ? signs and 7 says ok, I recognize your driver perfectly without an issue, so put it simply, my problem looks like some halloween issue.

I have a problem with reputated VAIO and Windows 7.

The issue starts while I was installing 7, 7 says ok, let's connect net, I input my credentials which is 8 character with WPA (not WPA 2 since router has no support for this)
Authentication is as PSK
Encryption TKIP

Then I failed to connect my wireless network. I say ok, let's try out for VAIO original 7 driver and no joy again, everytime it fails and I got windows was unable to connect to error.

I say ok, let's try out VAIO  Vista driver, same thing occurs.
I say ok, let's try out Intel's original driver that it detects in its site, same thing occurs.

I say, hmm, although I uninstall the drivers from device manager, let's delete those drivers manually. I found out all drivers from detail and delete them but no joy.

Then I tried out hdwwiz.exe and manually adding driver with the above combinations and still no joy.

Then, I tried out to configure the adapter settings from advanced tab by clicking configure on the adapter.

I changed Roaming Aggresiveness as highest and again no joy with above combinations. I changed some other settings there too but no joy and everytime I uninstall and install the driver, it gets its original settings.

I created wireless profiles according with my router settings in my machine but still I cannot have the wireless.

Note that the wireless connection is working perfectly with my other laptop and even in the same laptop with Ubuntu.

So, what should I do right now?
Please do not say change your router. I cannot.

I haven't tried with other wifi but I need my 7 to be working with this router, so even it's working with other wifi, it is not the case.

All the steps in this question are also applied with no password authentication and WEP and 802.1x authentaications too...

It was working in the preinstalled Vista Home Premium 64-bit.
I am now in 7 Pro 64-bit. (the very final release)

Imho, this is the hardest question of among all my questions.

A clue: With the intel driver from its site, I have created a profile, and it gets with WPA for about 5 mins then gone, note that I also reset the modem for 10 seconds, also cold boot the modem and 7 too for each steps.

I can reach the modem by typing its IP with my LAN.

All the 7 firewalls are closed. No antivirus. No virus since it's a scratch.

Another laptop I talked above which has Intel 3945ABG can connect with the settings.
It has the settings as:
Adhoc 802.11b/g 11
802.11a 36
Mixed Mode: CTS-to-self enabled

Right now, VAIO has advanced properties as:
802.11n Channel Width for band 2.4 20 MHz Only
802.11n Channel Width for band 5.2 Auto
802.11n Mode Enabled
Ad Hoc Channel 802.11b/g 11
Ad Hoc QoS Mode WMM Disabled
Fat Channel Intolerant Disabled
Mixed Mode Protection CTS-to-self Enabled
Roaming Aggressiveness 3.Medium
Throughput Enhancement Disabled
Transmit Power 5. Highest
Wireless Mode 6. 802.11a/b/g

Driver details:
NETw5s64.sys
vwifibus.sys
NETw5c64.dll
NETw564.dll

Modem Settings:
ESSID Yay1n1 Etkin   Etkin Deil  
Kablosuz Mod  Karma(11b+11g)Sadece 11gSadece 11b  
Kanal  Auto12345678910111213  
Security: Only WPA

Encryption Method: TKIP  
Auth. Tech.  PSK  

Those processes consumed 5 hours of my life and it worths a 10000 points imho. I need Doctor House:)

Best regards....
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ok..i did what you say no authentication and wep and all no authentication...It ruins my localarea network too.

The issue is the essid of the connection is the name of my LAN connection and wifi tries to connect to the same connection with no luck. Weird...
I mean I create a profile for the wifi but somehow LAN gets it...
ok scratch install...
still not recognizing...even with the scratch install...
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No, I mean I also tried with WEP and witout WEP. I didn't install INTEL's wifi software
and no joy
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The issue the working one is in XP and the driver is different as you can see above, so no point in USB...
Well, needless to say the key I type is right...
Why WEP? My method WPA is working perfectly. Even, I switch to any encryption or no encryption, the problem persists.
>>My method WPA is working perfectly
in working machine, XP
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let me try...thank you...
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That link: I have tried prior asking the question.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/license_agr.aspx?url=/18212/eng/ICS_Ds64.exe&agr=Y&sType=&PrdMap=&DwnldId=18212&strOSs=All&OSFullName=All+Operating+Systems&lang=eng

>>And one more question, you havent installed by accident the Sony Vaio Smart Network Utility, which >>could also be causing some issues?
Nope, I really don't like the utilities coming with VAIO so I haven't installed a bit.

By the way, when I click on the link http://downloadcenter.intel.com/license_agr.aspx?url=/18202/eng/ICS_x64.exe&agr=Y&sType=&PrdMap=&DwnldId=18202&strOSs=All&OSFullName=All+Operating+Systems&lang=eng

after approving the license agreement, the page goes to XP 64-bit utility, not a 7 utility?
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/download.aspx?url=/18202/eng/ICS_x64.exe&DwnldId=18202&lang=eng

>>Don't use two utiliies at a time:)
Sure:)
By the way, do you recommend removing the WIFI driver coming?
I mean first, removing the driver files by viewing driver details etc. then uninstalling the driver with a right click on wifi?

Then, reapply steps above? (Even I tried before, but for you, I can redo)

Note that the wifi is working perfectly under Ubuntu ridiculously.

It's very disappointing for VAIO and 7 that they have this kind of conflict.

I am not sure wep is the cure since wpa enc. is working perfectly under ubuntu. why on earth does 7 have a problem with encryption? I give a try for your solution too especially your intel configuration could be the cure.

Note that, I have right now very scratch install of 7. But it's not a issue to mess with the drivers since I also created a recovery partition for my 7 already. So, I will try all of your suggestions.

Best regards.

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lol, I write everything but the model..ahaha
VGN-FW4ZTJ_H
By the way, the first time, I plug LAN, it says select a location, the network I will be using is trusted. So, home? The reason asking this is, somehow, whatever I select, I can see it in NetworkingSharingCenter and with the name of wifi connection on mine...But even no wifi connection is selected (or selected and attempting to connect with no luck), LAN displays the wifi name. I will have the shots of those to be visual...Keep watching...

First, let me change the settings, then your intel driver and be back soon...
I check the settings from configure menu, same with yours:

802.11n Channel Width for band 2.4     20 MHz Only
802.11n Channel Width for band 5.2     Auto
802.11n Mode                           Enabled
Ad Hoc Channel 802.11 b/g              11
Ad Hoc Default Wireless Mode           0 . 802.11b/g
Ad Hoc Power Management                Disabled
Ad Hoc QoS Mode                        WMM Disabled
Fat Channel Intolerant                 Disabled
Mixed Mode Protection                  CTS-to-self Enabled
Roaming Agressivness                   3. Medium
Throughput Enchancement                 Disabled
Transmit power                         Highest
Wireless Mode                          6.802.11a/b/g  
ok, before of my any attempt, please check the screenshots, I want you to see everything...You will be witnessing most weird thing in the next post...
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Above 4 screenshot before anything screenshots..

ok, here are the shots of failue step by step:
Step 5: Uninstalling the scratch driver
Step 6 (no screenshot): Warning You are about to uninstall a device from computer, there was no delete the files stuff...
Step 7: Uninstalled, wi fi gone.
Step 8: (no screenshot)Check the driver in windows/drivers directory.
Step 9: he was there, manually deleted by me.
Step 10: Your intel driver link for wifi downloaded.
Step 11: installed and driver details is as in shot
Step 12: Your intel utility is downloaded for 7 Pro 64-bit. Time is come to connect
Step 13: baronet is my wifi connection as seen
Step 14: he says type the security key, i did it.
Step 15: Windows unable to connect! same problem...grrr...
Step 16: Let's check it with wifi tool of intel, association test failed, not associated...

Now any suggestions?
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>>...You will be witnessing most weird thing in the next post...
I haven't tried to create a profile with manage wireless connection stuff in networksharingcent.

If I do that, the "LAN" has the identification of baronet my wifi...Pretty weird...

No firewall, no UAC, no AV is installed for the record.

Best regards.
rebooted the machine, same problem...
I export the profile from another machine XP using some other model of Intel with its utility tool and import my VAIO via your link's tool..he says successfully imported....still not working, he creates a prfoile in manage wireless connection menu but he refuses to connect, failed in the very same step...
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:)

After import, I reboot the machine and no joy...

Let's check the final image...halloween image of all time...LAN connected, WIFI failure, look Windows recognition...
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I got that in the first place...no joy...it's killing...
i installed vista drivers randomly...startup repair:S
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I am done too...:)Thanks for the tips..

All checked no joy...I think I will be trying for another wifi area to be sure....
ok, I don't know which driver I have got right now...

But I did it somehow but yet, I don't right now conclude the question...

I disabled IPv6
I disabled Upnp in modem
In configure section, I select non-default values
Maximum power saving...

Voila...but I am very afraid of the wifi will went off...my lan is plugged all the time...
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Now, I release LAN cable...Let's see...
Through my search, the issue generally for Intel 5100 are as:
1) No connection
2) Low connection
3) Led is blinking

I think this can be applied to all of them...Ok let me reboot the machine...Note that LAN and WIFI has seems to connect same network while LAN was plugged...Now, let me reboot and see it...
ok as i suspected after a reboot, not connection regardless of connectivity of LAN
This seems not a driver issue maybe a Sony issue but I really suspect 7. The key point is LAN has the name of wifi connection. Above the very screenshot, they have both, when I unplug LAN, wifi lives on, but a reboot changed everything but what...
ok, while I was writing above lines, the wifi is still trying to authenticate...I think authentication process takes too long.
I strongly recommend for the ones who will search a solution for this problem to have a profile for their connection, without it simply doesn't connect but with a profile, he works on it no matter what and after 5 minutes from reboot, he connects. Again LAN is plugged....
this may bring the issue to a lower secure authentication WEP as a friend above said.
After another boot, without LAN plugging, no problem...
But after another boot, without LAN plugging, problem...
Moreover Bluetooth seems interesting since I use wireless switch on VAIO, wireless is NOT gone, bluetooth is gone... (I am not sure if bluetooth must be gone after switch on/off, but wireless stay but no connection in the taskbar...)
I think main problem is Marvell Yukon...I will lose him right now...
ok, I delete bluetooth, yukon, intel automatically and manually and installed sony's driver. Somehow, it passes sometimes association test, sometimes authentication test. So, I will reset the password stuff in modem...
WEP and passed all except for ping test in the end...wow...
senad how can i pass ping test?

I can ping the modem...I think If I can pass it, we have a concrete solution for this mess
Yes, pretty sure WPA fails in intel.
with no enc. again in the final step, ping step fails...
ok, i give up using wifi at home...I don't think if there is another way to handle this.

I will have a scratch install and install Sony driver ones and wait for a driver for it...
Tomorrow, at a public place, I will be probing wifi connection and if it would fail, then most probably, it's not a modem/router issue.

Best regards...
I didn't change a thing and he connects to wifi via wpa??????
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Right now, wifi is connected but for 4 hours, I haven't closed the machine, maybe I have to wait for wifi to get used to Intel AGN 5100...

I think, after all, nothing can be done upon this...
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jazzlllove, I have totally the same problem with my VGN-TT1RLN

It's intresting that if you plug in the cable into your LAN port it "save" parameters and easily connects to Wireless from the same network. And in several minutes or hours it disconnects, so unstable.

So, still no way out for this issue?


nope, but as I probed it in several areas, I can say, intel 5100 doesn't like old wifi devices:)
The trick with old wifi stuff could be creating a profile for them and in that case, Intel AGN 5100 constantly tries for the connection and get it eventually.

Best regards.