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how to setup my EOC-2610 wireless outdoor bridge/access point?

Asked by: morten444

Hi
I am trying to install this device for a friend at a school but haveing some issue to understand the concept, so not sure how to procede.

Here is the senario.
We have a wireless broadband at the office from BT.
In another building where the teacher lives he can not access the wireless because its to far away. Its about 100meters from the wireless network at the office in another building.

He has got this EOC-2610  and I understand it can be setup as Access Point and Client Bridge/Router

I thought the way to setup this would be
In the teachers house I should attach it on the outside wall. I should take a lan cable and connect it to the server. It should then manage to connect to the BT Wireless router at the office..

Is that correct?
Should I set it as Access Point or Client Bridge?
Do I need some other hardware kit at the other end or should the wireless router that bt provide be good enough to connect directly to the EOC-2610 outdoor bridge/access point.

As soon as i have understood the concept and if what I have is enought to acheve this, I am ok to follow manuals to set it up my self.

Hope on any advice to aid me


Kind regards
Morten

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Answers

 

by: WolfherePosted on 2009-08-22 at 15:18:12ID: 25160467

'Bridge' goes to the teachers house (inside) with outdoor directional antennae (outside). A range extender at the access point (outdoor directional antennae). Any trees or change in slope will have an effect. You must have direct line of sight. Anyone between the building and the teachers house would have access to the wireless. But as you may already know, there is probably some sort of security installed to the schools wireless network.

There is however a point of contention here. As a former network engineer for a VERY large school district, gaining access to the school network is a security risk and should not be done without contacting the respective IT Coordinator, Principal and Superintendent of the school district. I am sure you can see the issue. The teachers access becomes possible for student access to something say....grades? And if the student is feeling poorly about the school, perhaps insert a virus?  

As a current network administrator, I would certainly need to know what is going on within my network. And I would only condone it if my boss told me to. If I found out about it after the fact, I would lock the teachers access to anything. And prosecute. Otherwise, I would step back and consider the implications. If anything were to happen to the network, the teacher would be held responsible. And in turn you would be. Do your homework first!

Food for thought

 

by: WolfherePosted on 2009-08-22 at 15:31:24ID: 25160515

Sorry for my tone earlier. The more I thought about it, the madder I got. Let me step back a minute. I was also a network administrator for a very small school network out in the middle of nowhere. But even there, we could not provide wireless access to the teachers. Principal, yes. Superintendent, yes. We put a wireless tower up for the line of site. I even had wireless access, so that I might monitor the network 24/7. This was a school network in the middle of a reservation. That was many years ago, before security was as much an issue. All I am saying is, proceed with caution and make sure to dot all the i's and cross your t's. You are crossing the line of ethical behavior. If the school is a public entity, forget it.

 

by: morten444Posted on 2009-08-22 at 16:34:51ID: 25160700

Hi
Thanks for the advice and its good that you put alot of emphesis on the security.
Very important.
We do use encryption but luckely we have no state secrets :)
Its just to gain access to the schools study platform (educational software) and all students already have access to it.
Its just to give the teacher access to be able to work from home in the evening,so we are good :)

Thanks again for your explenation

Kind Regards
Morten

 

by: Darr247Posted on 2009-08-23 at 13:15:09ID: 25164076

From your description, it appears the teacher actually lives on-campus.


> In the teachers house I should attach it on the outside wall. I should take a lan cable
> and connect it to the server. It should then manage to connect to the BT Wireless router at the office..

Since the EOC-2610 is designed to be mounted outside, that should work fine.  Though as Wolfhere pointed out you might need to use directional antennae on both ends of the connection.
e.g.
12dBi - http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=21869
That's only about a foot long, and the plastic radome should keep ice from interfering.
Potential equalizer - http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=23458
Grounding Kit - http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20935
N Male to PR-SMA Male pigtail - http://www.l-com.com/productfamily.aspx?id=6504

The EnGenius device should uses an RP-SMA connector according to its datasheet. That pigtail converts the standard N connector (from the potential equalizer) to RP-SMA that will plug into the jack on the EOC-2610.
Though you'll see them called Lightning Protectors, nothing I'm aware of will save any electronic device connected to an antenna that takes a direct lightning strike. The 'protectors' really equalize the potential to 'earth' making the antenna no more attractive to lightning than the nearby surrounding ground... hopefully LESS attractive than nearby trees, et cetera. So 'potential equalizer' is what I call them.


> Should I set it as Access Point or Client Bridge?

Client Bridge, then connect to the teacher's computer (or LAN) with cat5 from the EOC-2610, as you already surmised.


> Do I need some other hardware kit at the other end or should the wireless router that
> bt provide be good enough to connect directly to the EOC-2610 outdoor bridge/access point.

That same antenna should work on the other end if needed, but it's hard to recommend pigtails/connectors when the original brand/model is unknown. e.g. Cisco and Linksys typically use RP-TNC; D-Link usually uses RP-SMA, but their business-class units use RP-N.  BT uses rebranded Thomson SpeedTouch units for their HomeHubs, but I'm not aware of what they issue school or commercial users. Then again, if the BT AP is sitting near a window facing the teacher's residence, a second external directional antenna might not be necessary. Hard to say for certain without a site survey.

 

by: morten444Posted on 2009-08-23 at 15:04:57ID: 31619266

Thanks for detailed responds Dar247. I will try to set it up close to the BT Wireless and get it to work. then move it further and further away untill i reach the teacher house. I will then find out if I need more hardware or not.
I am ready to test this out... Thanks

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