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No drives found - Sata problems with Asus a8v deluxe and no Floppy to load drivers

Asked by: Liamsmyth

Hi folks,
I have just got a 2nd hand pc off ebay, will be a bargain if I can get it to work! The problem is that the system won't recognise the hard drive. Some similiar answers talk about loading raid drivers and updating bios but the system doesn't have anywhere to plug in a floppy drive. I am not sure which raid drivers to try but if I can work out how to load them or update the bios it will move my query on.

Thanks.
Liam

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Answers

 

by: JeremySBrownPosted on 2009-09-01 at 13:59:59ID: 25236033

Did the computer come with a OS already installed, or do you need to install a OS?

<The problem is that the system won't recognise the hard drive.>

The system won't recognise the hard drive in the BIOS or when your installing a OS?

 

by: LiamsmythPosted on 2009-09-01 at 14:06:29ID: 25236164

Updated comment on problem.

The system had no OS loaded - so I am trying to install XP on it. It appears that the BIOS doesn't see and I get the "No drives detected" when trying to load windows.

 

by: JeremySBrownPosted on 2009-09-01 at 14:18:26ID: 25236280

Go into the BIOS, make sure that IDE is selected, NOT AHCI. XP doesn't support AHCI automatically. Once you change it from AHCI to IDE, XP should find your hard drive and you will be able to install Windows XP.

 

by: LiamsmythPosted on 2009-09-01 at 14:36:18ID: 25236426

Jeremy,
I can't see a reference to AHCI in the Bios or an option to switch between them. Under the advanced tab, in the onbaord device config and then operating mode, I see an option to switch between "Raid Mode" and onboard IDE Mode. It is sitting at Raid mode at the minute. Any idea which is right?

 

by: JeremySBrownPosted on 2009-09-01 at 14:50:30ID: 25236521

Okay...if your in "Raid Mode" right now, select "IDE Mode". Before leaving the BIOS make sure that you save the settings.

 

by: LiamsmythPosted on 2009-09-01 at 14:59:14ID: 25236581

Jeremy - Tried that but it still doesn't recognise it. What I did notice when it's booting up there is a reference to a Sata Bios and Promise followed by an error message saying "No device found, No Bios loaded" then it goes on to try and load windows. Then the windows piece confirms no hard drives found after it tries to load all the drivers.

 

by: JeremySBrownPosted on 2009-09-01 at 15:17:05ID: 25236717

Okay...Go into the BIOS, see if the BIOS recognize your hard drive. If it doesn't see the drive, it's possible that the hard drive has failed. Make sure that no cables are loose, or disconnected.

If IT DOES see it in the BIOS, try reformatting the drive.

In the BIOS you went to Advanced, then in Operating Mode intead of RAID you selected IDE Mode correct?

<the system doesn't have anywhere to plug in a floppy drive>

Do you mean inside the system? Do you have a USB Floppy Drive around you can use?

It's possible, that you'll need to update the BIOS with the newest one.

 

by: LiamsmythPosted on 2009-09-01 at 15:24:53ID: 25236776

Jeremy,
I believe the Bios doesn't recognise the hard drive. Tried all the cable and different ports including the raid one. Have set the bios to IDE mode but still no joy.

The mother board doesn;t have a "port" for an internal floppy so am going to check in work tomorrow to see if a USB one is available.

 

by: nobusPosted on 2009-09-01 at 23:40:55ID: 25238422

please post the motherboard or PC model

 

by: LiamsmythPosted on 2009-09-02 at 04:15:46ID: 25239721

Nobus:
It's a mesh pc with a ASUS A8V Deluxe motherboard.

 

by: nobusPosted on 2009-09-02 at 08:06:19ID: 25241825

did you connect the disk to the correct sata ports, as per page 2-24 of your manual :
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/a8v-deluxe/e1878_a8v_deluxe.pdf
also; you MUST use xp SP1 version

for raid, refer to pages 5-18 and further

 

by: rdkernsPosted on 2009-09-02 at 08:36:53ID: 25242188

OK, here is the problem.
Windows XP install does not support installation on Sata drives unless they are running in ATA Compatability mode in the Bios.

If you want to keep your drives running in native SATA mode You can get around it by doing the following on another computer.

Have a Windows XP Bootable installation CD, A Blank CD, And the Sata Controller Drivers for your Motherboard.

Download a program called Nlite
http://www.nliteos.com/

Install Nlite.

This program will allow you to slipstream the sata drivers into a Windows XP Installation CD so they drives may be used in native mode.

The program will ask for the Source CD. This will be the Windows XP CD. It will then ask you for a folder to copy the installation CD to. You can point it to whatever folder you like.

After it is done with copying under the Intergrate section choose drivers and point it to where you have the extracted drivers for the Motherboard Sata Controller. I would use the option "Multiple Driver Folder" and then just click on the folder where the driver is. That way if the driver file you downloaded supports multiple Variations of a SATA controller all will be loaded sureing setup. Use Textmode driver.

After that just click next thru the prompts and it will give the option to create an ISO. Create that ISO then burn it to the blank CD and use that to install windows.

 

by: LiamsmythPosted on 2009-09-02 at 15:12:03ID: 25246150

rdkearns:
When I first saw your answer I thought it was so complex and it did take me a while figuring it all out but it worked. Yipee!!!

Thanks to everyone for chipping in and getting me there and good luck for the future.
Liam

 

by: LiamsmythPosted on 2009-09-02 at 15:13:40ID: 31623260

You knew the extact answer - there was no irrelevant info just to the point and I have learn a lot from it in terms of slipstream start up disks. Delighted.

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