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HP JetDirect General Question

Asked by: kittlej

I've been using Jet Direct units for several years w/ Novell Netware to share printers w/ IPX.  It was easy. Just create a Printer, Queue, and point to it, so I'm pretty familiar w/ setting them up.  Recently I was asked to set up an HP laserjet 5000 on an IP network.  I didn't expect to have a very hard time doing this.  My expectation was that I would give it an IP, hit the PC , ADD / Network Printer / and type in \\192.168.0.29 for the printer, and Poof I'm done.   It isnt working that way.  For some reason I have to actually LOAD on EACH PC that wants to use the printer the HP JetAdmin software.  For some reason my head tells me that I shouldn't have to do that.  Can someone tell me the proper procedures for sharing printers  w/ a JetDirect card on an IP-Only network (assuming that nobody logs into any sort of server, which isnt true, but I dont want a person to have to have a user account on a server to use an IP printer).  Do i HAVE to load JetAdmin on EACH box?  I'll be really upset if I do.  let me know guys.  thanks!

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Answers

 

by: pete1968_bePosted on 2000-08-29 at 23:33:16ID: 4124415

Hi,

If you create with jetadmin a port to the specified IP, all you have to do with the other machines is to let them print to that port.

greetings,

Peter

 

by: kittlejPosted on 2000-08-30 at 09:41:27ID: 4129684

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.  What would I create the port on?  In my head I should just be able to assign the jetdirect card an IP address, and then I should just be able to point to that IP from ANY pc running ANY operating system (assuming the proper drivers are loaded) and just print to it.  The only way I've been able to make it work is to install jetadmin on each PC.

 

by: mal_mathesonPosted on 2000-08-30 at 18:04:49ID: 4136259

At my work we have various HP printers with JetDirect cards, and we print to them from VMS without using JetAdmin.  We print to the IP address and port 9100 - maybe the port number is what you are missing?  Try using \\192.168.0.29:9100 for the IP print queue (if there is no separate field for the port #).

Mal

 

by: mal_mathesonPosted on 2000-08-30 at 18:34:10ID: 4136422

OK, I've just added a print queue in Windows NT4 for a JetDirect printer, without using JetAdmin.  The procedure listed below uses the "LPR" port monitor, which I don't *think* Windows 98 has by default.  What OS are your PCs running?  If Windows 98, there are shareware/commercial LPR products available for this OS and the procedure to add a LPR print queue should be similar to the one given here.

To install JetDirect print queue without JetAdmin on Windows NT4 :

1) Settings, Printer, Add Printer
2) Select "My Computer" (local settings), NOT the "Network Printer Server". (I know, it sounds wrong, but trust me...).  Click on Next.
3) A list of available ports appears.  Click on "Add Port", then highlight "LPR port" from the list that appears and click "New Port".
4) The dialog "Add LPR compatible port" appears.  Enter the IP address 192.168.0.29 in the "Name of server" field, and 9100 in the "Name of printer" field. Click on OK, then click Close on the dialog.
4) You should be back at the list of available printer ports, with a new port "192.168.0.29:9100" checked. Click on Next.
5) Now select the appropriate print driver to use and click Next.
6) After adding the print driver if not already on the system, or keeping an existing print driver, you can now assign a friendly name to the print queue, decide whether to make it the default printer, whether to share the printer and finally print a test page.

Hope this helps,
Mal

 

by: kittlejPosted on 2000-08-30 at 23:09:33ID: 4138453

This is all way too deep for what I want to do.  All I want to do is be able to  browse network neighborhood and see the printer listed by a name or even an IP address (without installing jetadmin on EACH desktop that wants to print to this printer).  CANT I DO THAT?  Heh.  I'm not feeling so bad now that the answer isnt very apparent.

 

by: pete1968_bePosted on 2000-08-31 at 07:05:25ID: 4142747

Hi,

what you ask is possible if you install on your printserver jetadmin, add the port, install the driver, connect it to that port, and share the printer.

Peter

 

by: kittlejPosted on 2000-08-31 at 07:41:23ID: 4143359

What computer exactily do I have to install JetAdmin on.   You said "printserver".  I thought that JetDirect WAS my print server.  

 

by: jasonhPosted on 2000-08-31 at 12:58:21ID: 4147259

JetDirect is not a print server per se.  Its just a remote network card really.  You still have to install the printer on a server and share it out.

 

by: kittlejPosted on 2000-08-31 at 15:48:46ID: 4149444

That sucks.  So there is no way to make un-authenticated users of either a novell or NT server print to it without either logging into a server where it is shared, or installing the JetAdmin software?

 

by: jasonhPosted on 2000-09-01 at 05:07:31ID: 4155464

You could try installing the printer on a 95 workstation and then sharing the printer to "The World".  That way the clients don't have to present credentials to access the printer.

 

by: pete1968_bePosted on 2000-09-04 at 08:19:18ID: 4182020

Hi,

I agree this sucks, but isn't the reason for using a Novell or NT servers the security ??
If you really need to print from an unidentified machine, install jetAdmin to get the connection to the IP and the also the driver for the specified machine. JetAdmin just has to be installed once offcourse ;-)
About the JETDIRECT box, it is often wrongly called printserver, but it isn't.

greetings,

Peter

 

by: kittlejPosted on 2000-09-04 at 10:38:05ID: 4183074

are any of the so called "print servers" out there really print servers? ike the Axis, or others?

 

by: wright97Posted on 2000-09-09 at 10:15:49ID: 4246447

The easiest way I found to setup a network printer in NT 4 is to install the printer locally on the server so that the HP JetDirect Port is added, if it's not already there.  Once the port is installed, remove the printer and then go back in and set it up as a network printer on the server.  When you set it up, choose the HP Jet Direct port.  If you setup the IP address on the printer, it should be listed when you get to the screen of listed Jet Direct printers.
Make sure that you share it to everyone and it shouldn't matter if the users are logging into a server or not.

 

by: kittlejPosted on 2000-09-09 at 20:45:18ID: 4249121

If you would re-read my original question you will find that nowhere did I mention an NT server. The location does not have an NT server.

 

by: mal_mathesonPosted on 2000-09-09 at 22:33:22ID: 4249641

There are indeed real print servers out there, generally being small networked devices to which you can attach printers via serial or parallel cables. These servers support multiple protocols including TCP/IP and sometimes NetBEUI.

My work used to have the Lantronix range of print servers - the EPS1 and EPS2.  No login/user account was required to use the printers on these print servers.  If this sounds like what you want, have a look at  http://www.lantronix.com/products/ps/eps1_2/ for some more information. I am not sure, however, if the attached printers would appear in the Network Neighborhood - I think that since the EPS1/2 have NetBEUI then you would see them. You could check with the vendor before buying them.

Hope this helps,
Mal

 

by: BlockBusterPosted on 2000-09-14 at 09:19:48ID: 4305617

Hello all,

the principal problem is that you think you know everything about network printing and you don't use to read the reference manual. Working this way you you'll never know everything your appliance can do for you.

No matter what is your OS, what is your network protocol or whether you have (or not) a server in your net.

Are you using TCP/IP? Just use the "HP Install Network Printer Wizard" from the "HP JetDirect CD-ROM", which comes with any JetDirect or network-capable HP LaserJet printer. This small software is installed on the machine and create a network port to the printer just by informing it the printer address (IP address, IP hostname, JetDirect MAC address OR IPX address). The software works under AppleTalk, Netware, UNIX protocols (including TCP/IP) and Windows (all flavors).

It's simple, easy and hassle-free.
Select the option "Install Network Printer". Do you have the printer IP
address? Simply type it into and it'll reach the printer. The printer doesn't have IP address yet? Locate it by typing its MAC address or let the software locate the printer for you, and then you can specify the IP address for the printer. And you use the CD once-in-a-lifetime per machine. Need to install another printer? Just use again the software - it'll be already installed. And you don't need to install the HP JetAdmin (being discontinued) in each machine.

Do you have a print server in your net? Forget JetAdmin and install HP
WebJetAdmin in the server - from any workstation of the network you can
locate, install, configure and manage any printer with a JetDirect card. And you just need a browser (yes, your Web Browser!!!) to access the software from the server. Simple, easy and quick.

Kittlej,
do you wanna see how it's simple? Do you have a Web browser (with Java
enabled) and the IP address of your LaserJet 5000? Just type in the
browser "http://<printer_ip_address>" and you'll see what I'm saying. You will
be "talking" directly with the Embedded Web Server from the JetDirect. See the world of information you can take direct from it. And you don't need any software, anymore - just the browser. Imagine then what the HP WebJetAdmin can do...

"Ok, but I don't have the CD. What I do?"
Enter the WebPage "http://www.hp.com/net_printing/ppss/", learn more and download what you need.
Do you need more help? Ask me.
Hope that it helps you. It's my job.

BlockBuster

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