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Office without Active directory and Windows server

Asked by: rsernowski

Hello,

Looking for some opinions. We have an office of 6 people. Desktops are win xp pro. There is one server mainly used for the following: when you turn on your computer you sign into the ad directory which give access to internet, printers and files shares.If the server is down or has problems a user has NO access to files printers or Internet. It is time to change hardware on the server so I am wondering what are thoughts about NOT putting in a Windows server with AD.  

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2009-07-27 at 07:47:57ID24603059
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by: tigermattPosted on 2009-07-27 at 09:40:14ID: 24953352


If you install a server in a workgroup, you lose the benefits of an Active Directory environment - central management, a central user configuration, the ability for users to roam between machines and Group Policy.

In my opinion any network with more than 1 machine should have an Active Directory deployment.

If your server is configured and deployed properly, it should not go down very often. You should purchase SERVER grade hardware, with a RAID array and maybe redundant power supplies. If the Active Directory environment is deployed per best practices, the server should rarely have to be taken down during production hours.

You can take away Active Directory, but you lose many of the benefits it offers. If you address the root problem - a misconfigured server - you will gain a more stable network and still retain Active Directory.

For 6 users, have you considered an SBS server? This is much easier to maintain and configure, and also includes an Exchange license as standard.

-Matt

 

by: rsernowskiPosted on 2009-07-27 at 10:21:37ID: 24953740

Hi Matt,
Good comments, thanks.  We do each have our own computers and each person does have their own files on their own computer- in fact each computer config and software is quite specific. Each person does require different configs, and we have not had turn around in almost 5 years. He share maybe 10 files amongst and perhaps 2 files require input from 4 users. I used to work in a much bigger environment and I had rollover for AD so that when it hiccups users at any location can still sign onto the network.  We have hosted solution for email, calendaring, contacts and Blackberry sync .  I will look into the SBS server. Good suggestion thanks.  Does anyone have pure linux environment?
Thanks for the opinions Matt

 

by: IdfiixPosted on 2009-07-28 at 11:12:25ID: 24963329

I agree with Tigermatt about a SBS.

But sinds Rsernowskiu have hosted mail i think SBS is overkill.because u dont gone use the Exchange part that whats makes SBS so cheap and intressting for small company`s.












 

by: ShineOnPosted on 2009-07-28 at 12:19:55ID: 24964085

In my not-so-humble opinion, it's a waste of money and support resources putting in a Windows server with AD to service a six-person office.  There are cheaper options.

 Heck, for that matter, you could go out and get a Snap server or something like it - a "NAS device", if all you need is a bit of shared network-based storage.  Get one with a built-in tape drive and you've even got your data backups covered.

You can print directly to your shared printers instead of going through Windows server, by using a JetDirect or something like it.  

You can get a broadband router with a built-in firewall and directly access the shared Internet without passing it through a Windows server proxy, or through ICS on a workstation.

Unless you expect your 6-person office to grow exponentially and quickly,  or you plan to bring your email in-house, you don't need centralized services.

In my not-so-humble opinion...

 

by: rsernowskiPosted on 2009-08-18 at 11:50:02ID: 31608252

Hi ShineOn,

Thanks for the opinions.  Looks like no one else is going to take a stab and say WHY active directory is required, other than most businesses install it!
Thanks again

 

by: ShineOnPosted on 2009-08-18 at 19:19:42ID: 25129216

AD is required when you have a Windows domain.  Nothing else of value requires AD, unless it's written specifically to require AD - but there's most likely an alternative that doesn't require AD.

Does that answer your "why" question?

 

by: rsernowskiPosted on 2009-08-19 at 06:51:19ID: 25132573

Hi Shineon,
Yes, if you feel like expanding it would be much appreciated.if not that is ok too. I appreciate the thoughts you have provided so far.

A windows domain allows each person who uses computers within a domain receives his or her own unique account, or user name. This account can then be assigned access to resources within the domain.
-but can I not do that with samba?

The biggest issues I have , is that , in our company, people need to sign on to different websites with differing user name and passwords. Do I need a domain to remember those user id's and passwords so that a person doesn't have to type them in?

I have taken one person out of our existing domain, one day she can access the server the next day she could not! We had a windows server active directory expert in and the best he could say is update to server 2007! So I assigned her to a workgroup not the domain and she is ok. Except, she changed the password to her computer now she can't access the scanner and the shared drives. So I just went in and reset the devices with her new password.
So I guess I need to talk to the boss to see if I can disable password change or is there someother utlity I can buy?
I purchased Buffalo NAS with RAID  and it had continous backup. it has 2 TB of space. 300.00! a server with that amount of space would cost me 10X as much!

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