Question

Vlan Server Access

Asked by: kingcastle

Hi
i need to separate about 15pc's from my main lan, so i had the idea to put these pc's into there own vlan. Now thing is that they will need to connect to outlook on a server that is in the other vlan. Now i do not want these 15pc's to access anything else on the server, whats the best way to do this?

cheers

This Question has been solved and asker verified All Experts Exchange premium technology solutions are available to subscription members.

Subscribe now for full access to Experts Exchange and get

Instant Access to this Solution

  • Plus...
  • 30 Day FREE access, no risk, no obligation
  • Collaborate with the world's top tech experts
  • Unlimited access to our exclusive solution database
  • Never be left without tech help again

Subscribe Now

Asked On
2009-08-04 at 06:12:21ID24624493
Topics

Computer Servers

,

Network Operations

,

Network Switches & Hubs

Participating Experts
5
Points
500
Comments
12

Trusted by hundreds of thousands everyday for fast, accurate and reliable tech support.

  • "The time we save is the biggest benefit of Experts Exchange to Warner Bros. What could take multiple guys 2 hours or more each to find is accessed in around 15 minutes on Experts Exchange." Mike Kapnisakis, Warner Bros.
  • "Our team likes having a resource that is more secure than just using Google and most experts using this service really know their stuff. It's nice to look here first versus using Google." Dayna Sellner, Lockheed Martin
  • "Anytime that I've been stumped with a problem, 9 out of 10 times Experts Exchange has either the accepted solution or an open discussion of the potential solution to the problem." Kenny Red, eBay Inc.

See what Experts Exchange can do for you.

Got a question?

We've got the answer.

Experts Exchange has been collecting answers to technology questions since 1996…3 million and counting! If you have a question, chances are we already have your answer.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Need individual assistance?

Our experts are ready to help.

If you can't find the exact answer you're looking for, ask our exclusive community of 50,000 experts. You’ll get a personalized answer from a trusted professional.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Want to learn from the best?

Read articles from industry experts.

Thousands of free tech tips, tricks, how-to’s and tutorials are available in our peer reviewed articles section. See for yourself how smart our experts are, no login required.

Screenshot of an Article

Working on a long term project?

Store your work and research.

Save solutions to your questions, answers you’ve discovered through searching plus helpful articles in your personal knowledgebase for easy future access.

Screenshot of Experts Exchange Knowledgebase

Access the answers to your technology questions today.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

What Makes Experts Exchange Unique?

Members of the expert community talk about why the experience at Experts Exchange is different than what you will find anywhere else.

Trusted by the world's most respected brands.

image of each brand's logo

Faithfully serving IT professionals since 1996.

Experts Exchange Logo

Try it out and discover for yourself.

Subscribe Now

30-day free trial. Register in 60 seconds.

Related Solutions

  1. Securing VLANs
    We are install two HP 2848 Layer 2/3 switches in out data center and adding three new VLANs, we currently do not have any VLANs. We have all the routing setup so we can ping from out lan to any of the vlans and from the vlans to our lan. But how to we secure the vlans from th...
  2. VLAN
    Hi People - I would like to separate 3 networks from each other to reduce traffic on our LAN - I have an ASA5505 restricted (2 vlans max) and an ASA5505 unrestricted as well as an 8 port vlan capable switch - I've done this using routers with multiple blades but the vlan &qu...
  3. Cisco VLAN
    Hello, Is there a way to prevent traffic on VLAN A crossing to VLAN B other than using Access Lists? InterVLAN Routing is enabled.
  4. vlans
    I noticed the other day when backing up the configuration of a few switches on the network that the switches in the remote offices had a different name/number for accessing the LAN here is what i mean.....at the main office i have a vlan created called VLAN 25 for access to t...
  5. Vlans
    Hi all on creating vlans, let say we have an already established network with a couple of servers and 20 pc's. the network already has a DSL internet connection and all pc use that as their default gateway. if we want to introduce vlans to this network for example split the p...

Free Tech Articles

  1. WARNING: 5 Reasons why you should NEVER fix a computer for free.
    It is in our nature to love the puzzle. We are obsessed. The lot of us. We love puzzles. We love the challenge. We thrive on finding the answer. We hate disarray. It bothers us deep in our soul. W...
  2. SCCM OSD Basic troubleshooting
    SCCM 2007 OSD is a fantastic way to deploy operating systems, however, like most things SCCM issues can sometimes be difficult to resolve due to the sheer volume of logs to sift through and the dispe...
  3. Migrate Small Business Server 2003 to Exchange 2010 and Windows 2008 R2
    This guide is intended to provide step by step instructions on how to migrate from Small Business Server 2003 to Windows 2008 R2 with Exchange 2010. For this migration to work you will need the fo...
  4. Create a Win7 Gadget
    This article shows you how to create a simple "Gadget" -- a sort of mini-application supported by Windows 7 and Vista. Gadgets can be dropped anywhere on the desktop to provide instant information, ...
  5. Outlook continually prompting for username and password
    There have been a lot of questions recently regarding Outlook prompting for a username and password whilst using Exchange 2007. There are a few reasons why this would happen and I will try to cover t...
  6. Backup Exchange 2010 Information Store using Windows Backup
    There seems to be quite a lot of confusion around the ability to backup Exchange 2010 using the built in Windows Backup feature. This stems from the omission of this feature prior to Exchange 2007 s...

Cloud Class Webinars

  1. Avoiding Bugs in Microsoft Access
    Alison Balter takes and in-depth look at avoiding bugs in Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the immediate window to debug your applications, invoking the debugger, using breakpoints to troubleshoot, stepping through code, setting the next statement to execute, ...
  2. Top 10 Best New Features in Visio 2010
    Scott Helmers gives live demonstrations of the top 10 new features in Visio 2010. This webinar will teach you how to create compelling diagrams by adding shapes to the page with a single click, linking the shapes in a diagram to data in Excel (or SQL Server, or SharePoint), ...
  3. IT Consultant Business Secrets Revealed
    Michael Munger, Experts Exchange tech pro and IT consultant, pulls back the curtain on his very successful businesses and answers question on every IT consultant and business owner should know about. He shares secrets on what he did to solve the 5 most common problems in IT, ...
  4. Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity
    Quest CTO, Mike Billon, gives an overview of the steps involved in building a dunamic disaster recovery plan. Through case studies and an examination of software/hardware tooles for monitoring and testing, you'll gain a better understandin of where you are, where you want ...
  5. Organize Your Visio Diagrams with Containers and Lists
    Scott Helmers uses cross functional flowcharts, wireframe diagrams, data graphic legends and seating charts to teach you: how to ustilize all three new structured diagram components in Visio 2010, the best practices for organizeing shapes in previous version of Visio, how to organize ...
  6. How to Us Objects, Properties, Events and Methods in Microsoft Access
    Alison Dalter gives an in-depbth look at objects, properties, events and methods in Microsoft Access. In this webinar you will learn about using the object browser, referring to objects, working with properties and methods, working with object variables, understanding the ...

Join the Community

Give a Little. Get a Lot.

Join the community of experts here and help other tech pros by answering question in your area of expertise. You can earn FREE access to all Experts Exchange's premium features and resources.

Join the Community

Answers

 

by: _jesper_Posted on 2009-08-04 at 06:53:25ID: 25013792

If your switch supports access-lists, you would create an access list that allows the traffic you want, denies the traffic you don't want, permits established traffic and denies all other traffic.

Your other option is to use the firewall on the server to allow/deny traffic.

 

by: lnkevinPosted on 2009-08-04 at 07:00:50ID: 25013879

The only way to restrict all access except for Exchange is set up a firewall between the two vlan. That said, you have to set the rules in your firewall to restrict all except for port 25 (for Exchange). Normally, if you grant access to port 80 for OWA (outlook web access) you leave all Internet open. Therefore, you should block port 80. All your client PCs will get Internet access from its own server, which outside of the firewall.
You can set HW firewall (SonicWall, Cisco...) or software firewall Zone Alarm...

K

 

by: kingcastlePosted on 2009-08-04 at 07:04:23ID: 25013916

if i allow port 25 traffic is that enough? wont exhange expect the users to logon therefore requiring active directory lookup? therefore more ports needing opened?

cheers

 

by: lnkevinPosted on 2009-08-04 at 07:52:19ID: 25014427

That's it for typical Exchange in corporate. If you also run POP and IMAP, you also need 143 and 110. Here is the list of ports that you may need:
http://www.petri.co.il/ports_used_by_exchange.htm

Intranet port open. However, you may open the door for other access if port 80 is granted:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb125069(EXCHG.65).aspx

K

 

by: exx1976Posted on 2009-08-04 at 09:14:09ID: 25015287

"They need to connect to Outlook on a server ont he other LAN"

How are you sharing Outlook?  RDP?  Citrix?  RDP is TCP 3389, Citrix is TCP 1494 or TCP 2598.

 

by: kingcastlePosted on 2009-08-04 at 09:22:02ID: 25015387

basically i want them to contact the exchange server via outlook the normal way ie the standard outlook/exhange setup

cheers

 

by: exx1976Posted on 2009-08-04 at 09:29:10ID: 25015488

Ahh...

Then you'll need DNS, LDAP, and RPC.  Unless you've configured RPC over HTTP.

 

by: DevilWAHPosted on 2009-08-04 at 11:28:37ID: 25016641

if you have cisco routers you can set up access lists on  the router and apply it to the required network.

All firewalls work on the same basic idea. enter a line of logical commands to permit and deny traffic based on ip and ports.

in the ccase of ciscco it would look like this

assuming the PC valn is 192.168.50.0 /24
and the exchange server is 192.168.60.25/24

acccess list Excchange.

permit ip 192.168.50.0 0.0.0.255  any eq 53
permit ip 192.168.50.0 0.0.0.255  192.168.60.25 0.0.0.0 eq 25
deny any any

you then apply this to the incomming interface to the router from the PC vlan.

you would need to add in the same lines for ports for ldap rpc and any thing else you want to allow.

basicaly if you read the first permit line it says

allow any ip traffic from the 192.168.50.0 network (any port) to any host as long as its on port 53 (DNS),

the second statement does the same thing but is further limited to a specific host, ie the email server)

Access lists are very powerfully and for limiting specific access like this and tieing it down to only one or two protocals it would be my choise.

 

by: exx1976Posted on 2009-08-04 at 11:38:21ID: 25016744

Port 25 is not going to help you..   Port 25 is the port number that Exchange accepts SMTP mail on.  As in when another mail server connects to exchange to deliver mail that is destined for a mailbox that resides on that server.  It is not the port used by Outlook.  If all you all is 53 and 25, you're going to have broken Outlook clients.

 

by: exx1976Posted on 2009-08-04 at 11:39:10ID: 25016757

Have a look at this to pin down the RPC ports.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833799

 

by: c01000100Posted on 2009-08-05 at 01:38:07ID: 25021201

Also, let's not overlook the need for either inter-vlan routing or a static routes.  You'll need admin access to your router or layer 3 switch.

 

by: DevilWAHPosted on 2009-08-05 at 03:04:42ID: 25021665

as I mentioned you need to open up mutiply ports using this method, the code was just for examples.
you will need to decide the exact ports you need for your specific situation. and that requires a bit of reserch.

you aer better off doing a quick google serch and finding out this information.

if you have cisco routers you can set access lists on the VTY line (the lines that allow telnet and SSH access) this is a very good priactice to limits who has he ability to log on to the managmetn interface of a switch/router

20120131-EE-VQP-002

3 Ways to Join

30-Day Free Trial

The Experts

98% positive feedback on 31,087 answers since March 2000. angeliii is a Microsoft Most Valuable Professional for his work with MS SQL Server & Develoment.

He has also proven his knowledge of Visual Basic Programming, PHP Scripting and Oracle Databases.

The Experts

97% positive feedback on 10,752 answers since July 2000. lrmoore has more than 18 years experience in the networking industry.

The six-time Mircosoft MVPs specialties include firewalls, virtual private networking, and network management.

Testimonials

"...and excellent source for support... Kind of like having your very own IT dept." Electriciansnet

Testimonials

"I was apprehensive at signing up at first. However... it has already made my life as an IT administrator much easier." JaCrews

Testimonials

"WOW! You guys have great, active, and knowledgeable people on here." moore50

Business Clients

Business Clients

In the Press

"If you’ve got a question... Experts Exchange can supply an answer.”

In the Press

"...an invaluable aid for both IT professionals and those who require tech support."

In the Press

"where IT professionals provide quick answers on just about any topic"

Business Account Plans

Loading Advertisement...