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Is there a way of seeing your network directories in an orginastional chart?

Asked by: jonathanduane08

Hi, i was wondering if there was software out there that showed all directories and sub-directories in an orginisational chart of some sort?

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Answers

 

by: oldvikingPosted on 2009-07-31 at 07:44:24ID: 24989219

Take a look at Human Concepts OrgPlus: www.orgplus.com

Visio contains the little brother of this,  but with little automation.

 

by: hmarePosted on 2009-07-31 at 13:23:46ID: 24992134

You can also try windirstat
http://windirstat.info/

 

by: FlooringProPosted on 2009-08-01 at 10:38:28ID: 24996037

jonathanduane08,

It may help to know what exactley your trying to do with the data, as well what format you want to view it in.

 

by: BusyChillPosted on 2009-08-02 at 10:24:38ID: 24999531

 

by: jonathanduane08Posted on 2009-08-04 at 02:03:16ID: 25011643

Hi flooringpro, what i am trying to do is see every folder and subfolder on a shared drive in one shot, like an orginisational chart, i have recently taken over an IT admin role and the permissions seem to be all over the place...

 

by: FlooringProPosted on 2009-08-04 at 04:32:01ID: 25012423

jonathanduane08,

Can you post the answer please.  Even if no one receives a single point, your answer to this question may help numerous other people who are looking for the same thing.

 

by: oldvikingPosted on 2009-08-04 at 05:25:09ID: 25012802

Dear jonathanduane08,

one more try:

Do you want the output in MS-Visio, PowerPoint or some other grafical representation ?
If yes, then I see two ways to do this, none of which are out of the box solutions:

a) You can write a small script to create a list of the directories like this to a file:
name     parent
======  =======
dir1    
dir2       dir1
dir3       dir2
....

and any other data you find relevant to put in the "org-chart" representation of the directory structure. Then you can import this list into OrgPlus. It will generate a wonderful org.chart structure from this with many options, and you can export this to pdf, powerpoint, html or word.

b) You can write a VB macro in MS-Visio or Powerpoint to scan the directory structure, and build the structure programatically. However, this requires some VB/Office programming experience, and is outside my capabilities. Maybe somebody would do this if you write up some more details on how you want it to look (or some example) and make a post in the VB forum.

 

by: scottPosted on 2009-08-04 at 20:14:10ID: 25019917

I believe oldviking has hit the nail on the head in terms of possible approaches to the problem. (There is one other, very low-tech approach -- the DOS tree command. The output in a DOS window is actually not too bad, but even if you "pipe" the output to a file, it has limited value from there.)

So, back to oldviking's ideas:

Option A

The file below contains a macro that writes all subdirectories to an Excel worksheet as oldviking suggested. It doesn't contain any niceties yet -- like an easy way to select the starting directory. And the particular code I've borrowed chokes on directory names that contain certain punctuation characters such as a single quote ('). But if the concept works, those things can be added/fixed.

To run it, open the worksheet and press ALT+F11 to open the VB Editor. You'll see the place to enter the starting directory. Then go back to the worksheet and select Tools/Macro/Macros... and run the macro called WriteDirectoryTree. Save and close the file.

From there, go to Visio and use the Org Chart Wizard to import data from the file you just created.

No guarantees. You may or may not like the Visio org chart presentation but it's worth taking a look.

Option B

This is certainly feasible, but if the org chart wizard does what you need, that's probably easier because it includes things like automatic pagination and a wide variety of layout options.

 

by: FlooringProPosted on 2009-08-08 at 06:04:25ID: 25049632

Unfortunately i dont think a specific answer has been given well enough to qualify as the solution.  Both oldviking and scott were well on the way, but without the OP's input, i dont think we can be sure.

 

by: scottPosted on 2009-08-08 at 15:30:18ID: 25052015

It seems to me that we have provided a solution. The original request was for software that showed "all directories and sub-directories in an orginisational chart of some sort."

oldviking offered two ideas to achieve this result and I provided an Excel macro and instructions that implement one of his techniques (http:#25019917). The result is an organization chart in Visio that shows all directories and sub-directories. How is this not a solution? It may not be the ultimate solution but it works. And I offered above to add refinements if the solution is heading in the right direction.

Seems like the points should be split between oldviking and me...


 

by: oldvikingPosted on 2009-08-09 at 14:00:07ID: 25055943

I agree with Scott. Especially through the Excel Macro from Scott a workable solution was provided, which is a considerable effort. We have no feedback from jonathanduane08 that he found a better solution, or if this didn't meet his expectation. The original request was "software" to show directories and subdirectories - An excel Macro, and Visio Org Chart is "Software". To me, this requirement is certainly met.

So unless the we get feedback from jonathanduane08, I suggest 75% points to Scott for http:#25019917 and 25% points to myself for the original idea (http:#25012802).

 

by: FlooringProPosted on 2009-08-09 at 16:47:37ID: 25056523

The OP suggested that he was looking for a way to see what permissions each folder had in this suggestion ".. i have recently taken over an IT admin role and the permissions seem to be all over the place...".  Is it possible to read a folders permission in VB. Dont get wrong guys, i personally think you should both receive points. I take an interest in this question only because i dont know the answer and would like to Kb this one.  

 

by: scottPosted on 2009-08-09 at 18:00:28ID: 25056655

You're correct that I missed that bit of the requirement. I'll add that data to the macro with instructions for viewing it in Visio.

Scott

 

by: scottPosted on 2009-08-09 at 20:31:22ID: 25057029

jonathanduane08 -- can you tell me specifically what you'd like to see for each folder? For example, the attribute property returns values that indicate whether a folder is

  • Normal   
  • ReadOnly   
  • Hidden   
  • System   
  • Archive   
  • Alias   
  • Compressed   

Is this what you're looking for? Or something else?

 

by: jonathanduane08Posted on 2009-08-10 at 01:10:57ID: 25057910

Hi Scott,

All of the above you have specified would be great..

 

by: scottPosted on 2009-08-10 at 18:31:40ID: 25065568

In the process of finding a good way to get the folder attributes, I came across a much simpler method for getting the list of folders -- you'll notice that the attached code is much simpler. And not only is it simpler but it doesn't have any problem with folder names that contains single quotes! Better all around.

Columns one and two in the workbook are the same as they were before. Column three contains the heading "RHSAC" because it will contain one letter for each attribute that is turned on: Read-only/Hidden/System/Archive/Compressed. The default value for this column is five dashes "-----" which means that the folder has no special attributes, i.e., it is "normal". (Refer to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/5tx15443(VS.85).aspx)

If the macro finds any of the five attribute bits set it replaces the dash in the appropriate position with the letter of the corresponding attribute.

To use this extra column of data in Visio, there are two key dialogs in the organization chart wizard. I've included screen shots of both below. In the first, you indicate which columns of data you want to have displayed on each org chart shape; I just selected the folder name -- you might want to include the attribute string.

In the second dialog, you specify which fields, if any, you want to be stored in the org chart shape as shape data (known as "custom properties" in Visio 2003 and earlier). You can store all, some or none of the fields. The advantage of storing the data is that you can then use the Visio report wizard to create summary reports.

And -- if after all this you don't like the layout options Visio provides, scroll up to oldviking's first recommendation of OrgPlus. It may provide a format you like.



 

by: FlooringProPosted on 2009-08-10 at 19:31:05ID: 25065772

Very nice.  Id say this is definitely a solution for the problem as presented.  Thank you Scott, Old Viking.

 

by: oldvikingPosted on 2009-08-11 at 01:24:24ID: 25066994

Thank you Scott for realizing this solution - I feel it's almost worth a bigger audience....

 

by: scottPosted on 2009-08-11 at 05:02:05ID: 25068003

FlooringPro and oldviking: thanks for the comments. And thanks, oldviking, for the serious assist.

In fact...

ModernMatt: jonathanduane08 didn't split the points -- can you shift at least 25% of the points to oldviking??

oldviking: re your comment about a wider audience, I've already been thinking that this would be a good basis for an EE article (http://www.experts-exchange.com/articles/), primarily because I have had similar requests in the Visio Zone once or twice before. Ideally, writing an article will require two things: 1) playing with the org chart output a bit to find the best layout among the various options, and 2) creating a sample Visio report to illustrate how that can be done. But those things should be fairly straightforward. Do you want to jointly author an article??

Scott

 

by: oldvikingPosted on 2009-08-12 at 09:00:02ID: 25080039

Scott: Sure, why not ? I'm quite busy most of the time, but if we don't have a too strict deadline I should manage to do some playing around with Visio org chart in between. Now you have done the coding, so I can do the testing..... I'll send you a suggestion to the mail address in your profile.

 

by: scottPosted on 2009-08-12 at 20:43:14ID: 25085310

thanks, _alias99

Oldviking, no deadline for an article, it just seems like a good idea. I'll watch for your email after you've done some experimenting, then I'll draft something as a starting point for an article.

Scott

 

by: scottPosted on 2010-04-05 at 18:44:04ID: 29856353

It's been a very long time since the thread above -- but oldviking and I have finally <font id="linkPlaceHolder">published an article</font> on this subject. It includes screen shots, examples and a Visio macro that automates selection of a starting directory and creation of the org chart. Refer to this article:


 

by: scottPosted on 2010-04-05 at 18:46:06ID: 29856501

User error on the previous post -- I clicked submit prematurely.

It's been a very long time since the thread above -- but oldviking and I have finally published an article on this subject. It includes screen shots, examples and a Visio macro that automates selection of a starting directory and creation of the org chart. Please let us know what you think by adding comments to the article.

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