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Hyper-v folder structure best practices

Asked by: MisUszatek

I am planning to migrate virtual server data to SAN. What are the best practices for creating folder structure for VMs, VHDs and snapshots?

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2009-01-05 at 17:07:41ID24027058
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Answers

 

by: mkbeanPosted on 2009-01-06 at 07:21:30ID: 23305186

Well first off it is a smart move to move the virtual machines away from the OS.  VMs and their snapshots work fine on the same drive.  I like to have the structure with my VMs like the following:
x:\VM
x:\VM\Host1
x:\VM\Host1\snapshot
x:\VM\Host2
x:\VM\Host2\snapshot
x:\VM\Host3
x:\VM\Host3\snapshot

A lot of people like to move them to seperate drives but there are some drawbacks to that...it would have to copy over to the VM (where the VHD is) when a snapshot is being used.

You should take a look at this great PDF for more info -
Best Practice for MS Virtual Server
http://download.paragon-software.com/doc/Best_Practices_MS_Virtual_Server.pdf

Hope that helps.

Brian

 

by: tigermattPosted on 2009-01-06 at 14:28:49ID: 23310187


The most important part (in my mind) here is that you get your underlying disk configuration and RAID structure correct prior to worrying about the folder structure. It is most definitely nice to store your VHDs in the correct and most appropriate way, but the folder layout will not have any effect if the VMs are running on a slow, poorly configured disk array.

Remember that for VMs which need good read performance over write performance, look at placing them on a RAID 5 array. You can build this on your SAN with a minimum of 3 disks; you should consider either enterprise-class SCSI or SAS disks in your SAN for performance reasons. For a VM which will be accessing database files, the database files should be placed on a RAID 10 array, again with SCSI or SAS disks.

You should also consider configuring at least 1 disk as a hotspare, in the event one of the disks in one of the SAN arrays fails. And remember - there is no harm in using multiple arrays (RAID 5 and RAID 10) if that is necessary to store your VMs based on their function and disk requirements.

-tigermatt

 

by: CAGdorfPosted on 2009-01-08 at 16:45:05ID: 23331803

We use RAID 10 for the Guests and Raid 0 for the Host OS. On a couple servers we are fortunate enough to have RAID10 for both. I don't like the default directories that Hyper-V uses and I created a folder on the RAID 10 disks just simply called "Virtual Machines" and then I have a folder under there for each VM/VHD. On some servers I have experimented with placing the snapshots in the default directory but I am on the fence about that.

 

by: tigermattPosted on 2009-01-09 at 09:04:58ID: 23337601


RAID 10 for VMs is good. I would highly recommend against RAID 0 for the host OS - if one of the drives from that array went bad, you would have to rebuild the host OS from scratch. Your VMs would still be there - but the whole server would be down while the server is rebuilt.

-tigermatt

 

by: CAGdorfPosted on 2009-01-09 at 09:27:22ID: 23337872

Ooops I didn't mean Raid 0 I meant Raid 1 (Mirroring). Thanks for the catch tigermatt!

 

by: tigermattPosted on 2009-01-09 at 09:27:54ID: 23337878

Lol... no problem!

 

by: MisUszatekPosted on 2009-01-09 at 10:24:10ID: 23338591

I have a RAID 5 with a hot spare, but that was not my question. I only need to know what is the best practice for creating folders structure. What should be default paths in Hyper-v setup so it is easy to perform backups or move from one virtual server to another.

 

by: tigermattPosted on 2009-01-09 at 10:38:01ID: 23338744


There isn't really a "best practice" as to creating your folder structure. However, if you're interested, my preferred configuration is creating a global folder called 'Virtual Machines', and then a subfolder specifically for each VM which is running. So:

x:\Virtual Machines\VM1\Vm1.VHD
x:\Virtual Machines\VM2\Vm2.VHD
...and so on.

However, you need to be aware that this will not help with backups. When performing backups, you should either use Snapshots in Hyper-V, or stream data out of the VM machine using a product such as NTBackup or Symantec Backup Exec and Remote Agents. You should not back-up the VHD files directly, as they will be locked by the Hyper-V Server.

-tigermatt

 

by: CAGdorfPosted on 2009-01-09 at 10:42:58ID: 23338809

Also if you are using a Domain Controller as a guest OR Exchange you DO NOT want to use snapshots to backup. Snapshots do not play well with either one of these. Every once in a while I actually take a VM offline and copy the VHD elsewhere to be backed up by Backup Exec. That way if I have to do a restore I can have the VHD ready first.

 

by: tigermattPosted on 2009-01-09 at 10:54:44ID: 23338949


Yes, that is a good point from CAGdorf.

My preferred method for backups is to have a NAS device on the network. I then install a full edition of Symantec Backup Exec either on a separate server (preferably) or another VM. You can then use Remote Agent licenses installed in each VM to perform a normal Backup Exec backup, but from within the VM, rather than of the VM itself. This way, you still get all the benefits of a normal backup which you would perform in a non-virtual environment. And for Exchange, you would obviously install the Exchange Remote Agent in order to run an Exchange-aware backup.

-Matt

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