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Need help converting correlated subquery to a join...

Asked by: jamesreddy

Ok.  I taught Microsoft SQL Server(on an introductory level) but I am having a hard time with this.  I've been trying to expand my knowledge, if you will, on SQL.  In my travels, I discovered that it becomes more efficient, many times, to convert subqueries to joins (when possible).  I have, in fact, been practicing and converting many such statements to joins.  THEN I came across this statement in a sample database I downloaded:

SELECT ArtistName FROM Artists
WHERE ArtistID IN
( SELECT ArtistID FROM ArtistCDs WHERE CompactDiscID IN
( SELECT CompactDiscID FROM CompactDiscs WHERE CDTitle = 'Past Light' ) ) ;

Coorelated subquery.  Never saw one before.  I'm not entirely sure I understand what the above statement even means.  I'm having a hard time translating it.  In any event, if I knew what the above statement was asking for, I might be able to convert it to a JOIN statement.  Could some assist me in telling me what this subquery is asking for?  You can use my example or another...I'm just looking for a better understanding of correlated subqueries.

Thanks in advance.

James

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by: imrancsPosted on 2004-06-16 at 07:50:27ID: 11325051

SELECT ArtistName FROM Artists A
INNER JOIN ArtistCDs Ac ON A.ArtistID  = Ac.ArtistID
INNER JOIN CompactDiscs Cd ON Ac.CompactDiscID = Cd.CompactDiscID


Imran

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2004-06-16 at 07:52:09ID: 11325075

Actually that's those are correlated subqueries; subqueries, yes, but not correlated.

The queries will be executed from the bottom up.  That is, this will be done first:

( SELECT CompactDiscID FROM CompactDiscs WHERE CDTitle = 'Past Light' )

Then this:

( SELECT ArtistID FROM ArtistCDs WHERE CompactDiscID IN ...)

and finally:

SELECT ArtistName FROM Artists
WHERE ArtistID IN ...

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2004-06-16 at 07:52:48ID: 11325085

CORRECTION:

Actually those aren't correlated subqueries; ...

 

by: svidPosted on 2004-06-16 at 07:54:22ID: 11325104

The join statement would be:

SELECT a.ArtistName
FROM Artists a inner join ArtistCDs ac on a.artistid = ac.artistid
inner join CompactDiscs cd on cd.compactdisid = ac.compactdiscid and CDTitle = 'Past Light'

In a correlated query, the subquery is first evaluated and the result is substituted in the outer query. In this case (your example) it happens twice because there are two sub queries.

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2004-06-16 at 07:55:06ID: 11325115

The join version would be:

SELECT ArtistName
FROM Artists
INNER JOIN ArtistCDs ON Artists.ArtistID = ArtistCDs.ArtistID
INNER JOIN CompactDiscs ON ArtistCDs.CompactDiscID = CompactDiscs.CompactDiscID AND CompactDiscs.CDTitle = 'Past Light' ;

 

by: HilairePosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:01:11ID: 11325182

I think it would be
SELECT DISTINCT ArtistsName
from .....

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:11:41ID: 11325291

I think DISTINCT would be needed only if the same artist had more than one cd with the name 'Past Light' :-) .

 

by: jamesreddyPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:14:27ID: 11325324

Scott...that was what I was looking for.  That breakdown helps.  Now, the rest of you I am noticing are converting this to an three table INNER JOIN.  Right?  I am familiar with INNER, OUTER, and FULL joins...and wonder why everyone is choosing INNER JOIN for this particular statement?  Based on Scott's comments, and the way I am interpreting this...a FULL JOIN could be used as well, couldn't it?  Or is there another reason for using INNER JOINS over FULL JOINS that I am not thinking of?

Remember...I know Microsoft SQL Server fairly well, but it's loaded with wizards.  LOL.  This is my first experience diving deep into the code itself, so understanding these little differences is coming slowly.

 

by: jamesreddyPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:15:33ID: 11325338

And wait...Scott...these AREN'T correlated subqueries?  I thought the statement was a correlated subquery?  A SELECT for a SELECT for a SELECT is correlated, isn't it?

 

by: HilairePosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:26:36ID: 11325467

>>I think DISTINCT would be needed only if the same artist had more than one cd with the name 'Past Light' :-) .<<
Or if several artists collaborated on the same CD, wich is strongly suggested by the table design ... and by the usage of "IN" rather than "=" in the query initially posted by jamesreddy.

Don't you think the ArtistCDs table suggests a many-to-many relationship.
If one CD has one artist, this table is useless ...

Just my two cents ...

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:26:43ID: 11325470

Not necessarily.  Correlated means that a subquery will run once for every value in an outer query.  If each query can run just once, then they're not correlated.

For example, this query *is* correlated:

USE pubs
SELECT au_lname, au_fname
FROM authors
WHERE 100 IN
   (SELECT royaltyper
   FROM titleauthor
   WHERE titleauthor.au_ID = authors.au_id)

Note that the subquery has a reference to a column in the outer query -- "authors.au_id".  This is a trademark of a correlated subquery -- within the body of the subquery itself it references a column from an outer query.

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:32:19ID: 11325536

>> Or if several artists collaborated on the same CD, wich is strongly suggested by the table design ... and by the usage of "IN" rather than "=" in the query initially posted by jamesreddy.

The IN would be needed to handle multiple different artists, not necessarily the same one.  For example, 10 different people could have CDs named 'Past Light'.  IN would be necessary even with no dups.

>> Don't you think the ArtistCDs table suggests a many-to-many relationship.
If one CD has one artist, this table is useless ... <<

True, you're right there.  DISTINCT would still only be needed if the same artist worked on more than one CD with the specific title given; that's possible, albeit unlikely.

 

by: jamesreddyPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:39:55ID: 11325613

Hilaire is correct in her assumption that there is Artist collaboration for CDs in the database.  In fact, running the last part of the query by itself:

SELECT CompactDiscID FROM CompactDiscs WHERE CDTitle = 'Past Light'

yields ten results against the sample database.  FYI...



I'm just trying to figure out why the book I am reading lists this as a correlated subquery...there must be a very fine distinction.  I have noticed many websites with similar queries referred to as correlated.  Since there is more than one result from the last statement, does that, in itself, make it correlated?  This is a little confusing...

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:47:11ID: 11325697

No, that by itself does make it correlated.

Books Online has a good -- but short -- definition under the topic "Correlated Subqueries" (from which I took the sample query above :-) .

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:50:24ID: 11325738

Btw, to answer your other question, a FULL OUTER JOIN would not be appropriate for this query because a FULL OUTER JOIN always includes all rows from both tables.  So you would get all Artists, ArtistCDs and CompactDiscs.  An INNER join limits to only matching rows, which is what the original query did, so that's why we all chose it :-) .

 

by: jamesreddyPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:51:53ID: 11325757

What about FULL JOINS versus INNER JOINS?  Why did you choose an INNER JOIN over a FULL JOIN as everyone who has responded so far is doing?

 

by: svidPosted on 2004-06-16 at 08:57:52ID: 11325828

A FULL JOIN is the same as the FULL OUTER JOIN.  Since you want only matching rows, an INNER JOIN was used.

 

by: LowfatspreadPosted on 2004-06-16 at 11:38:51ID: 11327505

You could also write it as  

SELECT ArtistName FROM Artists as A
WHERE Exists
( SELECT AC.ArtistID
    FROM ArtistCDs as AC
   WHERE Ac.Artistid = A.ArtistID
        And Exists  ( SELECT C.CompactDiscID
                             FROM CompactDiscs as C
                           WHERE CDTitle = 'Past Light'
                                and c.compactdiscid=ac.compactdiscid
                          )
 )


which does use correlated subqueries



the INNER join gives you the INTERSECTION of the Result sets
the Full Outer Join  show all data around the intersection
the Left/Right Joins Give you Everything (on the left or right plus the Insection data)
the Cross product join shows all data from the join tables combined with each other..

hth

 

by: jamesreddyPosted on 2004-06-16 at 12:25:43ID: 11327991

Thanks for the help guys.  That helped.  Makes me wonder why people even use the more complicated subquery statements when joins are easier.

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