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Table Design Question - In-Table Row Versioning. Help?

Asked by: bhess1

At my current workplace, there is a group of programmers working on our next-generation app for in-house work.  Their work includes the design of the enterprise DB, which is where I have a question for people.

In the current design, they are implementing in-table row versioning.  In this implementation, when a row is modified, instead of actually modifying the existing row, the original row is flagged as 'deleted', and a new row is added.  A pair of Date fields indicate the date/times that the row was valid from - to (labeled as Date added and date modified), with no IsDeleted flag indicating the current row.

Each table will have an identity field, and a second surrogate 'Identity' field for identifying the rows related to one entity.  The table's PK (and a clustered index) will be based on the second 'Identity' field.

Personally, I believe that tables like this will become increasingly problematic as time goes on, growing ridiculously large and slow to query, and difficult to run applications against.  However, I need some actual information on this:

1)  Has anyone ever actually considered an implementation like this in SQL Server?

2)  If so, what were your thoughts on this?

3)  If you went to Implementation, what were the results?

4)  Are there any existing theoretial works that support this methodology?  If so, what are they?

This is one of the most intelligent groups I know on SQL Server questions, and I would really like an assist on answering this.

Points will be split, or supplemental points will be added in extra questions.  Thanks!

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Answers

 

by: amit_gPosted on 2005-06-08 at 12:17:21ID: 14173731

What is the basic purpose of versioning? Audit or real need for the application that uses this database?

 

by: rafranciscoPosted on 2005-06-08 at 12:19:55ID: 14173745

As far as I know, this type of implementation is being used for data warehousing applications (OLAP).  In data warehouseing applications, records/rows are not directly updated but simply flagged as deleted by an expiration date and a new record is inserted.  Given that it is primarily used for data warehousing applications, it is not recommended for on-line transaction processing (OLTP) applications because, as you've said, it is going to be slow when querying.

 

by: ScottPletcherPosted on 2005-06-08 at 13:49:46ID: 14174571

1)  I certainly haven't.  Just the idea of it is terribly painful.

2)  Very bad idea, for the reasons you stated.

3)  N/A

4)  None that I know of.  I suppose one might be able to find some obscure case where this approach was worthwhile, but I certainly can't think of one.

 

by: ShogunWadePosted on 2005-06-08 at 13:57:27ID: 14174632

"Personally, I believe that tables like this will become increasingly problematic as time goes on, growing ridiculously large and slow to query, and difficult to run applications against."

I absolutely concur.   With all due respect to your designer, IMHO it would appear to me that their real world experience would appear to be limited.

I have seen such an implementation on 2 occasions (both government sponsored and bother went horribly wrong and developemnt costs and time where extreme),  on both occasions I was contracted in to  scrap it and "do it properly".    I like people who develop schemas like this as they are creating future contract work for me :)

I have come across a handfull of books in my time endorsing such an aproach, but these are theoretical and are so remote from the real world that I have only found them usefull as kindling for my fire :)

 

by: ShogunWadePosted on 2005-06-08 at 13:59:13ID: 14174650

I should qualify my statement by saying it is very common not to actually delete records (mainly for recovery and or auditing purposes) but audit logs and data held for recovery purposes should be seperated from the active data.

 

by: amit_gPosted on 2005-06-08 at 14:04:29ID: 14174704

I have also seen a failed attempt to implement something very similar. These were the few problems that they were facing:

1) Unnecessary reference of those columns in each and every query in each and every application. Many times people forgot to apply the conditions and thus there were bugs (very easy to fix but still there were bugs).

2) Since the rows were never deleted (physically), the foreign key enforcement for delete/update was non-existent. This created serious problems both during development and during production. Obviously they end up having several orphan rows in child tables where the master table row was deleted (not physically) without doing the same in child table. This in was the biggest problem.

3) Any table that had more than few thousand rows, had to include these columns in the indexes.

4) The need to do this was not application or database specific but just that in case the user deleted incorrect data, they could recover. There was no application looking at those deleted (not physically) rows. So hardly ever that deleted data was used (by DBA) to restore or for audit purpose.

If the need is audit, I would recommend moving the updated/deleted rows to audit tables in the same database or a different audit database. If the need is some application specific, we need to know and may be there is a better alternative.

 

by: ShogunWadePosted on 2005-06-08 at 14:10:35ID: 14174755

You have pretty much summed up exactly the symptoms that I witnessed there amit_g.  glad Im not the only one to have wintnessed  such scarey sights : )

 

by: ShogunWadePosted on 2005-06-08 at 14:20:56ID: 14174845

One interesting little point, i would mention if you feel like challanging the designers on it... is on the deleted flag.   I assume being a flag this is a BIT field.   You cant add bit fields to indexes, thus lets say in a simple case you had say a table called PERSON and a column called personID, leats say you flag that as deleted and crreate another record with the same person ID but not flagged as deleted as a "subsitute".

You cant define PersonID as a primary key as it is not unique and you cant define the primary key as the personid and the deleted flag, as that may also not be unique and a bit field cant be in an index.   So what you have got is a table who's logical primary key cant be enfoced other than through triggers, then youll have to impose your relationships through triggers, and foreign key constraints, etc.  . gulp.... this will as fast as  using carrier pigeons to as your transport layer for online gaming :)

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