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Sql Server 2005: How to create a Database with the mdf and ldf being on the networked drive?

Asked by: resham

Hi, I do not have much experience in creating databases and maintaining them. I want to create a Database and keep its data and log file on networked location. My command looks like:

RESTORE DATABASE MyDB FROM DISK='\\Machine1\MyDB.bak'
WITH
MOVE 'MyDB_Data' TO '\\Machine1\Data\MyDB_Data.MDF',
MOVE 'MyDB_Log' TO '\\Machine1\Log\MyDB_Log.LDF'

now when I do this, i get error:
The file "\\\Machine1\Data\MyDB_Data.MDF'" is on a network path that is not supported for database files.

I tried to look this up and found one article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304261
and tried to OFF the trace flag 1807 [Actually it was never ON in my system] but still gets the error.

My Ques are:
1. Can we create DB like the way I am trying?
2. Or can we make an extra harddisk attached to machine as a NAS device?

Your help is greatly apprciated.

Thanks
Resham

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2008-10-21 at 05:12:42ID23832973
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by: sstadPosted on 2008-10-21 at 05:31:41ID: 22766597

You could also create a mapped networkdrive that points to a network location or NAS.

But remember that this can create quite a lot of networktraffic when your database get larger.

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2008-10-21 at 05:33:53ID: 22766614

the mapped drive "trick" will not work.

>1. Can we create DB like the way I am trying?
short answer: yes, with some trace flags activated
long answer: do NOT do it for production servers

>2. Or can we make an extra harddisk attached to machine as a NAS device?
NAS/SAN drives are different, and should not be considered "network" drives in the same matter as true networked mapped drives.

 

by: reshamPosted on 2008-10-21 at 05:38:06ID: 22766638

Hi angellll,

it is not a Producttion server. It is for development purpose but database is going to be huge. I think we are okay with the tadeoff of network traffic as it wont be hit as much.

Can you please explain which TRACE flags to activate for this to make possible.

Thanks angellll and sstad for prompt reply.

Resham

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2008-10-21 at 06:00:58ID: 22766809

http://www.sqldba.org/articles/43-sql-server-database-on-UNC-network-drive-trace-flag-1807.aspx

DBCC TraceOn(1807)
GO
CREATE DATABASE DATABASE_NAME
ON
(NAME = DATABASE_DAT,
FILENAME = '\\ServerName\ShareName\database_dat.mdf' )
GO
DBCC TraceOff(1807)

                                              
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by: reshamPosted on 2008-10-22 at 04:35:14ID: 22775344

Thanks Angellll,

This has been a helpful but problem is not completely solved.

DBCC TraceOn(1807)
RESTORE DATABASE Cargill_Incidents FILEGROUP='PRIMARY' FROM DISK = '\\ashutosht\Cargill CD set of 2\Altiris_Incidents_backup_200804031703.bak'
WITH
MOVE N'Altiris_Incidents' TO N'\\ashutosht\Data\Altiris_Incidents.mdf',
MOVE N'Altiris_Incidents_log' TO N'\\ashutosht\Log\Altiris_Incidents_log.LDF',
MOVE N'sysft_HD_workitem_comment' TO N'D:\Temp',
REPLACE
DBCC TraceOff(1807)

it gave me error:

Msg 5120, Level 16, State 101, Line 6
Unable to open the physical file "\\ashutosht\Data\Altiris_Incidents.mdf". Operating system error 5: "5(Access is denied.)".
Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 6
RESTORE DATABASE is terminating abnormally.

Then I went to that machine, MDF was created there. I gave full permission to 'Everyone' on that file and executed command again.

It gives me same error and when i check the permissions on the file, permissions for the 'Everyone' are lost. SQL server is running unders windows authentication and that same user has 'Administator' rights on the other machine as well.

Can you please tell me what am i doing wrong here??


Thanks
REsham

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2008-10-22 at 04:47:15ID: 22775433

did you grant full permission to BOTH the folder and share permissions?

 

by: reshamPosted on 2008-10-22 at 05:06:32ID: 22775588

Yes.

Folder already has Full permission to Everyone and I did give it to file manually but everytime I execute the command, permissions for Everyone gets lost on it.

I dont know if this is the factor but I m accessing both machine using RDC.

Thanks,
Resham

 

by: mark_willsPosted on 2008-10-22 at 09:19:18ID: 22778316

If you are using RDC, then you are not connecting directly via the network as such. It is a different comms link and you are effectively "on" the machine using RDC rather than pointing to it - so - paths and suck like might not be anything "real".  You will need to ping the servername from your machine to make sure it is first visible as the UDC name. Then you will need a trusted connection from your machine to that server. Depending on if you need to "connect" to the server to use RDC, that  somtimes causes network elements to be locked out (e.g. can you send and receive mail, or browse the internet ?). But then, I only just saw the closing bits of this thread...

 

by: reshamPosted on 2008-11-06 at 21:35:28ID: 31508226

Thanks Angellll for all your help.

Though it did not solve all my problems it did help me a lot in going forward. My requirements were changed afterwards so I couldnt come back to this questiosn earlier.

Thanks everybody for all your efforts.

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