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Problems loggin in to SQL server.

Asked by: RHWeston

A year ago I purchased an application which uses an SQL database in SQL Server 2005.  The database is loaded on our main server, which runs W2003 SBS and is our Domain Controller, Exchange Server and print server.  At the time we also had a W2003 Terminal Server running 32 bit.  Some people access the database directly from their workstations, but most people use the Terminal Server.  We had no problems until this week.  We took our W2003 Terminal Server and rebuilt it with 64 bit W2003.  We reloaded the application and thought things were going okay but have found an interesting problem.
User A has a workstation and can connect through the workstation, but when he is on the TS and tries to connect he gets a message "Could not connect to database: Cannot open database "Service" requested by the login.  The login failed.  Connection: Provider SQLOLEDB;Network Library=dbnmpntw;Trusted_Connection=yes;Server=lmg01\ESC;Database=Service"  LMG01 is the name of our server, so LMG01\ESC is the name of the Database server.  The Database is Service.  
User B has no workstation, but only a thin client.  User B can log in to the TS and try to connect using the same settings and is successful.  
The login method is Windows authentication.  When user B is asked to fill in a Database Name he can search and see 4 available databases.   When user A tries to search there is no dabase found.  I used Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio Express and went to the folders for Security and Logins.  Both users A and B are there.  I looked at every possible window.  Connection properties were identical, except for the SPID.  Th only other place I could see a difference was under Login Properties, User Mapping.  User B did have the Database Service checked as mapped, but User A did not.  I did place a check for that database and tried to save it.  It would not save it and a copy of the error message is attached.  
I contacted Customer Support at the firm which supplied the programs and they suggested I contact Microsoft for support.  Before I go down that path I thought I would first try here.  I am a novice at SQL and therefore might need extra details.  Also this is Friday and I will not be able to check back on this until Monday

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    Error message when trying to change login mapping

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by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-25 at 14:22:28ID: 25427366

Have you tried running in SSMS:

go <your database>
exec sp_change_users_login 'update_one', LMG\philip, LMG\philip

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-25 at 14:36:38ID: 25427486

You have to treat me as a novice here.  I went to SSMS Express and expanded the server, dabases, database "Service", Security, Users and I can see user Philip.  I am not sure that is where you suggest I visit.  Are you suggesting a DOS type command.  If so, from what directory?  Or do you mean something else?

 

by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-25 at 14:46:05ID: 25427540

I'm sorry RH. Go to SSMS Express, open up a new query window & execute these commands.

go <your database>
exec sp_change_users_login 'update_one', LMG\philip, LMG\philip

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-25 at 14:56:02ID: 25427595

Thanks Steve,  I am still doing something wrong.  I attached a screen shot of the error message.  My database name is Service and  I tried the command "go service" and "go <service> and had the same error with both attempts.  What should I change?

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    SSMS Error when entering command.

    SSMS Error when entering command.
 

by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-25 at 14:58:26ID: 25427604

No your not, I am a moron. Its "use services" not "go services". I should never take my glasses off.

BTW, the solution I gave you is one that I have used when addressing the error in your popup window reffering to the user already existing in the database. A way to confirm this condition is to go into SSMS, open up databases -> your database -> security -> logins. If you see the login there, then open the server security leaf -> Logins. If you see the login there then right-mouse click the login and select properties. Select User Mapping in the list on the left & check the database. If there is no check next to your database then that will confim the condition and the code should correct it.

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-25 at 15:07:43ID: 25427663

Steve, I typed the command as shown below.  I received back the error message that follows.  

use services
exec sp_change_users_login 'update_one', LMG\philip, LMG\philip

Msg 911, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Could not locate entry in sysdatabases for database 'services'. No entry found with that name. Make sure that the name is entered correctly.

Some of my tabs may have different names and locations, but I did go to Databases - Service - Security - Users - LMG\Philip and find him.  No database was checked under User Mapping.  I could also go to Security - Logins - LMG\Philip and the properties there were identical.  

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-25 at 15:10:37ID: 25427680

I just saw one error with my command.  I put the database as services, not service.  I still have an error, but a different one.  

use service
exec sp_change_users_login 'update_one', LMG\philip, LMG\philip

Msg 102, Level 15, State 1, Line 2
Incorrect syntax near '\'.

 

by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-25 at 15:13:04ID: 25427689

Hmmm, try enclosing the user names in ex. [LMG\philip]. I will check the syntax as well.

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-25 at 15:19:21ID: 25427734

Steve, I just tried again.  It looks like this may be the correct syntax and it is telling me it cannot find the user LMB\philip.  Should I delete him and start again?

use service
exec sp_change_users_login 'update_one', [LMG\philip], [LMG\philip]

Msg 15291, Level 16, State 1, Procedure sp_change_users_login, Line 108
Terminating this procedure. The User name 'LMG\philip' is absent or invalid.

 

by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-25 at 15:23:50ID: 25427763

So did I. I thought that the stored procedure would treat both SQL and Windows logins the same. Apparently I am wrong. Sorry about that.

Try this (its easier if I cut and paste this again): open up databases -> your database -> security -> logins. If you see the login there, then open the server security leaf -> Logins. If you see the login there then right-mouse click the login and select properties. Select User Mapping in the list on the left & check the database. If there is no check next to your database, then delete the user from the database (your database -> security -> LMG\philip [right-mouse-delete] and re-add it at the security->logins Select User Mapping by checking the checkbox next to the database name and applying it.

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-25 at 19:04:59ID: 25428480

Sorry for the delay but I had to hurry home and mow my yard before dark.  I beat the dark but finished in a light rain.  Now I am back.  I read your suggestion.  I went into SMSS and went to Databases, Service, Security, Users, Philip.  This did not have anything about mapping.  I then went to Security, Logins, Philip.  There is an option for mapping but it would not permit me to do any mapping.  I opened the database application and went to the user maintenance and deleted user Philip.  I came back to SMSS and in Security, Logins I deleted user Philip.  I then wen to Databases, Service, Security, Users and tried to delete user Philip.  It failed.  The message is attached.  I went back into the application and added Philip back and am back to where I started.  The most puzzling part of this whole situation to me is that from his workstation Philip can log into the database with no problems.  However when he logs in using the Terminal Server he has errors.  But other people, including myself, can log in from the Terminal Server without problems.  I can login from either the Terminal Server or my local workstation.  I do not see anything obvious in his profile, although nothing else works I will deleted it and start again.  

 

by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-28 at 06:07:39ID: 25438971

So you have re-added LCM\Philip to the Server logins and wa unable to ddelete the login form the Services database. Is that cortrect? Hmmm, so much for the easy approach. I'll do some snooping & get back to you when I can. I want to aviod trying to change the schema ownership in the database unless we have to.

 

by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-28 at 07:02:30ID: 25439388

Try running:

 EXEC sp_change_users_login 'Auto_Fix', 'LCM\Philip'

 BTW, the domain is still valid, no?

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-28 at 08:53:03ID: 25440378

I tried running that command as suggested.  I have attached a printout.  It did not seem to make any difference.  Philip still had the same message when he tried to connect on the Terminal Server even though he connected from the workstation.  

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-28 at 08:54:37ID: 25440394

I hit a key too fast.  Here is a copy of the screen when Philip attempts to connect.  

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-28 at 08:57:19ID: 25440422

Another attempt to show error screen

 

by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-28 at 09:05:22ID: 25440491

I assume that you were in the proper database in SSMS. If you run:

EXEC sp_change_users_login 'Report'

 in that dfatabase, does it list 'LCM\Philip'?

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-28 at 14:50:30ID: 25443721

I am not finding any users.  My server is LMG01, my application is ESC, the database is Service.  The screen print clearly shows that as being where I ran the query.  The message is that it was successful, but the Results are empty.  I got this after verifying 2 users were actively using the database.  

 

by: ptcStevePosted on 2009-09-28 at 14:55:43ID: 25443764

Ok, so that means that there are no orphaned users in that dabase. When you say youyr application is ESC, what do you mean? According to your connect string your server instance is name ESC. Is that what you mean?

 To make sure, open a query in SSMS and execute:

select @@servername
 What does that return?

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-28 at 15:02:12ID: 25443807

ESC is the name of the application and the name on the icon.  LMG01\ESC is what I put in the application when I choose the server.  When I ran the command you suggested the result was    LMG01\ESC

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-09-30 at 11:44:15ID: 25461964

I still have no solution to this problem.  Thinking it might be in the Terminal Server profile I deleted Philip's profile from the Terminal Server and had him log in again.  The TS created a new profile, but when he tried to open the database he got the same error as before.  I had another person who only uses the Terminal Server to work come to me with the same problem.  Apparently this does not have anything to do with the user name we are trying to put in to login as it does with the user on the Terminal Server.  I can login as ADMIN from my TS connection, but not from Philip's. I can login to the database as Philip if I am using my TS login.  

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-10-05 at 08:40:29ID: 25496273

I am still looking for a solution.  As I said in my last post I am thinking if it has more to do with the Terminal Server than database administration.  Some uses on the Terminal Server can connect with no problem.  But at least 2 users have told me they cannot connect.  Each user has a folder in Documents and Settings and I went and deleted that folder for one user with the problem logging in to SQL.  That directory was rebuilt, but still the user had the same error.  Does anyone know of any other place where the TS might be keeping settings for users?  

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-10-21 at 13:05:22ID: 25627749

according to the last error message, the login does not have any permissions in the database "service", or the "service" database is single-user/offline.

can you check in the SSMS, while connected to the instance, in the Security folder -> logins -> your login, properties, if that login is mapped (user mappings) to the "service" database ?

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-10-30 at 10:08:51ID: 25704944

I took a look at the mapping today.  Every user that is listed is mapped to "Service" except for Philip.  When I first looked at the properties for Philip and opened up User Mapping, there was no mapping.  I tried to check the map to Service but when I tried to save and exit I got an error message.  That error   message is displayed.  I think this might be the right path to follow.   Should I delete Philip and try to enter system again?   I have another user Rob that is no longer an employee.  Could I delete user Philip and rename user Rob to user Philip?  

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    Error when mapping Philip to database Service

    Error when mapping Philip to database Service
 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-10-30 at 11:11:10ID: 25705472

please check this query to see if you "see" the user:
select * from  <yourdatabase>.sys.users

also, run this:
select * from master.sys.logins

and paste both relevant records here...

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-10-30 at 14:36:15ID: 25706971

I tried to run the 2 queries you suggested but this is so new to me that I cannot get things correct.  I have included the exact way I typed the 2 queries and the results.  When I open the database using the program it says the server name is lmg01\ESC and the database is Service.  I have tried lmg01, ESC and service and none of them seem to work.  The server machine has a name of LMG01.  I  am working with a program ESC and when we login we login to server "LMG01\ESC" and we choose the database "Service".  How do I properly define that in the query?

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-10-30 at 14:48:12ID: 25707036

let's give this a second try...

and is your database really named LGM01\ESC ? I presume (from the question text) that is the server/instance name. your dbname is "service"

select * from master.sys.syslogins
 
select * from [service].sys.sysusers
                                              
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by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-10-30 at 19:43:44ID: 25708131

I am still learning, including terminology.  The Server is LMG01 and the instance is ESC and the database is SERVICE.  I ran the 2 queries you suggested.  There are many columns and the logins took 3 screen shots to show all the columns and is attached at Query1-1, Query 1-2 and Query 1-3.  I wanted to show the information for login Philip and his information is at the bottom of the screen.  When I ran the query for users I was able to put his information at the top.  I do not see anything different for him than any other users or logins.  

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-10-30 at 19:46:00ID: 25708137

I did not get all images attached.  Here are the rest

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-10-31 at 13:09:26ID: 25711327

hmmm... I presumed you would limit the output to the logins/users that would be relevant

select * from master.sys.syslogins
where [loginname] like '%philip%' 
 
select * from [service].sys.sysusers
where [name] like '%philip%'
                                              
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by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-11-02 at 12:27:08ID: 25723365

I am a Newbie when it comes to SQL so I needed that extra coding to know how to restrict output.  Here is the output for those 2 commands for just user Philip.  Due to width I have 2 screen prints for each query.  I  hope it is legible.

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-11-02 at 13:29:45ID: 25723952

this is just fine...

except that, from what I can see, the "sid" column values seem to match.
can you double-check just that 1 column?

they have to match for the link to be done between the login and the user record...

if that is not the case, you should be able to update the sysusers record to update the sid to match the syslogins, either with this (note the case sensitive difference, it should not matter, though):
EXEC sp_change_users_login 'Update_One', 'LMG\Philip', 'LMG\philip';

or a direct update...

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-11-02 at 14:54:00ID: 25724632

Now that I know how important the SID is I went in and compared them.  They are not the same.  I did a copy and paste of the command you suggested and got an error.  Should I enter the actual SID?  You mentioned a direct update.  How do I proceed with it>

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-11-02 at 14:59:33ID: 25724677

you might need to enable catalog updates...

update u
   set u.sid = l.sid
  from [service].sys.sysusers u
  join master.sys.syslogins l
    on l.[loginname] like 'LGM\philip%' 
   and u.[name] like 'LGM\philip%'

                                              
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by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-11-02 at 15:41:09ID: 25724946

Unfortunately the server does not like that command either.  I will let you know that I will not be able to respond until tomorrow, but I will check this first thing in the morning.  I really appreciate all your efforts to help me get through this problem.

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-11-02 at 15:46:03ID: 25724979

buzzer ...

ok, let's see if this works:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms176060.aspx

USE [service]
ALTER USER [LGM\philip]
 WITH LOGIN [LGM\philip]

                                              
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by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-11-03 at 09:50:56ID: 25731544

I think we are getting closer.  This query is showing a syntax error on line 3.  I have been looking at help files but so far do not see any correction that is obvious.

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-11-03 at 12:21:30ID: 25733131

please try without the [ ]

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-11-03 at 12:59:01ID: 25733544

I already tried that.  The end of the message changed to "Incorrect syntax near 'LMG'.  I have been out looking at the help files and found a command to just this, but it has some variables I am not sure about.  It has a user_name and a new_user_name.  I cannot figure out what changes this would be asking for in my situation.

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-11-03 at 13:06:53ID: 25733648

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-11-03 at 14:08:22ID: 25734343

I have SQL 2005.  The article you found has a link at the bottom to instructions for SQL 2005, and that link is right back to the page I found in the help file.  What goes in the place of <set_item>?  Should I change user Philip to Philip1 and then change it back with this type of command?  Of is there a way to delete both the login Philip and the User Philip and start fresh?  

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-11-03 at 14:12:12ID: 25734390

I actually refered the link, showing that you seem to need SP2 at least in sql 2005 ...
do you have SP2 or higher?

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-11-03 at 14:45:03ID: 25734696

I just ran a query.  I have SQL Express Edition, SP3, SQL_Version 9.00.4053.00.

 

by: angelIIIPosted on 2009-11-03 at 14:45:53ID: 25734712

sorry, I don't know, then. :(

 

by: RHWestonPosted on 2009-11-03 at 14:50:22ID: 25734772

Thank you for all your help. I will keep trying, but I think you have me where I need to be.  I will be closing this and awarding points to both angellll and to ptcSteve.  I know that I have learned a lot more about administering SQL than I ever expected to know.

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