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2007 Access dropdown method needs delay after form load

Asked by: DaveRoehrman

Why is the .dropdown method of a combo box unable to work when used within the Form_Load event procedure?.  This apparently works in Access 2003, but not in Access 2007?

It works to set the form's timerinterval to 1, then use .dropdown on the combo box in the Form_Timer procedure.  This is certainly an acceptable solution, but I'd like to know if someone can shed some light on why it does not work as it was apparently intended, and if there's a more direct solution.

I can't upload the entire db, since it contains personal confidential information.

Private Sub Form_Load()
.
.
.
Me!Instructions.Caption = "Search for Contact in list below"
Me!cboExistingContact.Visible = True
Me!cboExistingContact.Enabled = True
Me!cboExistingContact.SetFocus
Me!cboExistingContact.Dropdown
.
.
.
End sub

                                  
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2009-10-28 at 06:50:20ID24850840
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Answers

 

by: JDettmanPosted on 2009-10-28 at 06:59:18ID: 25683261

I'm not sure why that would be the case.  At the point of the Onload event, all controls should be instantiated and good to go.

What exactly happens?  

And as a suggestion, to see if it is control creation related, try a Me.Repaint before the command in place of timer.  If that works, then it would seem the control is not available as yet.

JimD.

 

by: DaveRoehrmanPosted on 2009-10-28 at 07:00:18ID: 25683275

By the way, the problem is not that the control loses focus after Load, or somehow does not have the focus during Load.  This combo box is first on the tab list.  

Also, as stated in the error message when it was attempted to open the combo box without the focus, "You can't reference a property or method for a control unless the control has the focus."

 

by: harfangPosted on 2009-10-28 at 07:02:27ID: 25683304

I can confirm that the code above works in Access 2003, at least when used alone on a form (no other event handlers, nothing special at all).

It doesn't work in your form either because the exact order of events has changed between version 2003 and 2007 (for example there is a final redraw after the form is done loading) or because other code interacts with the redrawing (for example in the "current" event).

This is really your question, why?, and I will leave that to another expert willing to test it in version 2007.

I can however answer why the "timer interval" works reliably. The first timer event will fire only once the form is idle. This means that all other events, including "form current" and the first control's "on enter", among others, have been processed. There are other tricks to achieve the same behaviour if the timer is used for something else.

Cheers!
(°v°)

 

by: harfangPosted on 2009-10-28 at 07:05:44ID: 25683338

Incidentally, these lines are strange:

    Me!cboExistingContact.Visible = True
    Me!cboExistingContact.Enabled = True

Does this mean that the combo is invisible and disabled? If either is true, the default control will be the next one in the tab order.

(°v°)

 

by: DaveRoehrmanPosted on 2009-10-28 at 07:31:24ID: 25683613

Yes, I had the combo box Visible property set to "no", so I tried again with it set to "yes" with same result.

These are the first lines of the Form_Load procedure (after a couple of dim statements).  All controls are visible and enabled.

Further, I tried omitting the setfocus line, and an error stated, "You can't use the .dropdown method unless the control has the focus. (yet it's first on the tab list).

Private Sub Form_Load()
Dim counter As Integer
Dim answer As Integer
 
'Me!Instructions.Caption = "Search for Contact in list below"
'Me!cboExistingContact.Visible = True
'Me!cboExistingContact.Enabled = True
Me!cboExistingContact.SetFocus                  'This is sufficient to ensure cbo has the focus in order to .dropdown on the Timer event
Me!cboExistingContact.Dropdown                 'Can't get this to work here; had to resort to the Timer sequence
 
Me.TimerInterval = 1                                   'One thousandth of a second is enough to make it happen
End Sub

                                              
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by: Helen_FeddemaPosted on 2009-10-28 at 07:39:02ID: 25683720

I agree with harfang that there is no need to make the combo box visible and enabled from the Load event -- if you don't need it to be disabled or invisible when the form is loaded, just make it visible and enabled.  I did that, and tested the code in Access 2007.  I found that when I stepped through the code, the list did indeed drop down on the DropDown line, but it closed on the End Sub line.

 

by: Helen_FeddemaPosted on 2009-10-28 at 07:42:31ID: 25683765

I tried the GotFocus event of the combobox; that didn't work; then I put the code on a command button, and it worked.  You will need to experiment and find a suitable event that drops down the list.

Private Sub cmdDropDown_Click()
 
   Me!cboExistingContact.SetFocus
   Me!cboExistingContact.Dropdown
 
End Sub
                                              
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by: Helen_FeddemaPosted on 2009-10-28 at 07:44:01ID: 25683776

Drops the list down, and doesn't immediately close it, that is.

 

by: DaveRoehrmanPosted on 2009-10-28 at 07:55:21ID: 25683925

Your confirmations are helpful.  How do you observe the form as you step thru the code?  I can't view the form until all Form_Load and Timer code has been executed.

 

by: Helen_FeddemaPosted on 2009-10-28 at 08:15:38ID: 25684158

Open the VB window, place a breakpoint on the code using F9, and then when the form is loaded, the code will stop at the breakpoint, and you can step through the remaining code using F8.

 

by: Helen_FeddemaPosted on 2009-10-28 at 08:16:43ID: 25684170

You might be able to make a little procedure to do the dropdown, and call it from the Load event -- I didn't try that.

 

by: JDettmanPosted on 2009-10-28 at 08:23:46ID: 25684265

<<I tried the GotFocus event of the combobox; that didn't work; >>

Hum...that has always worked...sounds to me like Access 2007 is broken.

JimD.

 

by: DaveRoehrmanPosted on 2009-10-28 at 08:49:04ID: 25684596

Helen Feddema, you said...

"Open the VB window, place a breakpoint on the code using F9, and then when the form is loaded, the code will stop at the breakpoint, and you can step through the remaining code using F8."

I have used these steps often, but was unable to view the form as I stepped through the code.  Each instruction is highlighted as I move from line to line, but when I click on the Access tab to view the form, it is not displayed.   I would really like to see the effect of each line of code on the form as you said you did, to view the dropdown (before the End Sub instruction was executed).

 

by: DaveRoehrmanPosted on 2009-10-29 at 05:25:07ID: 31646959

Thanks for the various attempts to help.  Seems some questions remain about .dropdown in Access 2007 during Form_Load

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