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Access Form Will Print Preview but not Print

Asked by: laffman

An application I have been working on for years has stopped printing forms - any form.  They all view nicely in Print Preview mode.  When I try to print them, something is actually spooled to the printer, my print monitor says something is printing, but nothing ever appears on the printer (like it spooled an empty file).

This happens on any workstation I install the app on, so it is in the app and not the particular pc.

I really need to get this working again, I need to install this on other networks.

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Answers

 

by: rockiroadsPosted on 2006-12-07 at 12:15:47ID: 18096569

Have u tried different printers? Perhaps there is an issue with the printer

 

by: laffmanPosted on 2006-12-07 at 12:30:19ID: 18096697

Yes, I should have said that I've tried this with multiple printer too.

 

by: rockiroadsPosted on 2006-12-07 at 12:49:37ID: 18096844

The other thing I was going to suggest was print drivers

Have u tried creating another db, dummy tables/values and test report, does that produce the same thing?

 

by: laffmanPosted on 2006-12-07 at 18:28:53ID: 18098911

OK, these results really narrow it down.

I ran 4 separate tests with 2 separate applications.  I got the same results for both applications:

MDB w/o  /RUNTIME = PRINTS
MDB with /RUNTIME  = NO PRINT
MDE w/o /RUNTIME  = PRINTS
MDE with /RUNTIME = NO PRINT

It also appears it does not matter whether I use full or runtime versions of Access.

Thus, the culprit basically appears to be the /runtime parameter, which I definitely need.  So far, a quick search on this hasn't turned up anything yet.  

Anyone with any ideas?

 

by: laffmanPosted on 2006-12-07 at 21:02:46ID: 18099532

I should add I had a colleague try this on his machine, he got the same results.

 

by: rockiroadsPosted on 2006-12-07 at 22:16:02ID: 18099767

Obviously some limitation with runtime. I dont know what it might be. Ive posted a question in another thread asking other experts for help. Hopefully someone can come round and help you out here.

 

by: nico5038Posted on 2006-12-08 at 03:03:17ID: 18100426

Hmm, does sound like corruption.
Did you try to create a new .mdb and import all objects with File/Get external data/Import
and/or did you run a decompile?

Nic;o)

 

by: LSMConsultingPosted on 2006-12-08 at 05:51:26ID: 18101143

When you say the /runtime parameter, do you mean you're running your file with that param? But you're not actually running the file in a machine with only the runtime installed?

What version of Access?

 

by: stevbePosted on 2006-12-08 at 09:18:32ID: 18102943

anybody been messing with the Layout for Print and Fast Laser Printing properties for your forms?

 

by: laffmanPosted on 2006-12-08 at 13:30:50ID: 18104898

First, thanks to all that have responded.  I'm a long time developer and this has really got me stumped.

Let's start with Nic:  Yes, I always run a decompile and compact before making an MDE and archiving my source MDB.  With both applications.

LSMConsulting: Yes, I do mean I am running the file with that param.  All machines this has been tried on (4 different PCs) have full versions of Access 2000.  I get the same results with both full and runtime versions of Access.

Stevbe:  I'm the only developer on these two applications, and have never messed with these properties.

Has anyone else run into this same situation?

 

by: harfangPosted on 2006-12-08 at 16:52:55ID: 18105962

Hello laffman

Actually, I have, but that was some versions ago (Access 95, perhaps).

The problem was that I had last modified my application on my laptop, which had only a crummy deskjet printer as default printer. All my reports got corrupted (I didn't print forms, but the symptoms look familiar). The full version of Access was able to correct the reports for better laser printers (a sort of last-minute design adjustment), but the runtime version was not.

Try this: set a good and reliable default printer (even a dummy print-to-file printer) and create a new form, with a "print this" button. Does this new form behave like the others? I bet it doesn't.

If that new form works, try to edit your forms with that same good default printer. If that doesn't solve it, save your forms as text and reimport them from text. If that doesn't work, edit the text version of your forms to remove all printer-specific information (thus you get the default) and import again.

The commands are called (from VB) "savetotext" and "loadfromtext".

The trick for MDE files and runtime versions is this: always use the lowest target OS (patched), with only the desired version of Access installed, and the best target printer driver (any Postcript printer will do).

Hope this helps

(°v°)

 

by: laffmanPosted on 2006-12-08 at 19:36:19ID: 18106437

Well, I've ended up answering my own question.

Besides all I've tried so far, I've also pondered the age-old question, "What has changed since it worked?".  This has been tough, because it's been a while since I last used this function in my test environment, so a lot has changed since I remember using it.  A LOT.  My first hunch turned out to be correct - I had added a Form_Timer event to my main menu.  I set the TimerInterval to zero, and voila, it prints again!

My Form_Timer event does not have to run when a form is being printed.  Since the print icon in my toolbar opens the print dialog box when a form is the active object, I just stop the event for the print command, as in:

  Forms!MyForm.Form.TimerInterval = 0
  On Error Resume Next  ' print failures don't crash the app, so this is a-ok to use here
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPrint
  Forms!MyhForm.Form.TimerInterval = 2000

Hmm, so what do I do when I end up answering my own question?

 

by: harfangPosted on 2006-12-08 at 20:19:46ID: 18106550

I answered my question myself. What do I do? http:/help.jsp#hi70

Cheers (good hunch, btw)!
(°v°)

 

by: cactus_dataPosted on 2006-12-09 at 00:55:26ID: 18107073

> Hmm, so what do I do when I end up answering my own question?

Turn to using a report for printing ...

/gustav

 

by: DarthModPosted on 2006-12-16 at 10:09:52ID: 18152170

PAQd, 500 points refunded.

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