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Unable to sort a calculated field in a datasheet form

Asked by: psg4

Hi experts,

In ds form i have some calculated columns(either by functions, either they are clalculated as the sum of other fields) and i want to allow the user to sort ascendig or descending, but these buttons are disabled? Is there any work around or just because these colums are calculated when the form is open and their values are not saved anywhere i cannot make a sorting based on them?

Thanks for any help
Manolis

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Answers

 

by: LSMConsultingPosted on 2008-07-19 at 03:44:04ID: 22042122

You can't do this via the standard Access interface buttons, but you can add your own Sort buttons to the form and sort the recordsource by your calculated columns. For example:

Sub SortByCalcColumn()
  Me.Recordsource = "SELECT blah blah ORDER BY NameOfMyCalcColumn"
End Sub

 

by: puppydogbuddyPosted on 2008-07-19 at 04:26:11ID: 22042194

A slightly different way, using a sort on a total column as an example:

Private Sub Form_Load()
OrderBy = "[Total Column Name]"
OrderByOn = True
End Sub

where grouping is required, you must do a group by before you can sort the results

see also this link:  http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?&lang=&cr=&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.access.queries&p=1&tid=AD110AE0-5F32-40D2-A7CF-45A64AF784FF&mid=AD110AE0-5F32-40D2-A7CF-45A64AF784FF

 

by: psg4Posted on 2008-07-19 at 08:28:12ID: 22042755

LSM can you please explain a little bit more the SELECT syntax?

 

by: nico5038Posted on 2008-07-19 at 18:17:26ID: 22044154

A work around might be to change the query in an append query and store the result in a temp table.
Trigger a delete * from tblTemp and the append query in the main form's OnOpen and by using the datasheet for the subform, your standard sort will work.

Nic;o)

 

by: harfangPosted on 2008-07-19 at 21:30:41ID: 22044576

The sort buttons are only disabled with you create expressions directly in the form. For example, if you have, in txtTotal:

    = Quantity * UnitPrice

That expression is evaluated by the Form engine, not by Jet, so that it cannot use it as sort criteria. However, if you include it in the query, it will work. Click on the builder button to create a query, include the (table name).* in order to have all fields and add this calculated field:

    Total: Quantity * UnitPrice

Return to your form and replace the expression with 'Total'. This way, Jet know what the field contains and will happily sort by it.

Cheers!
(°v°)

 

by: psg4Posted on 2008-07-20 at 02:16:59ID: 22045053

I don't want to base the form on a query because the user will not be able to update the data(unless there is something we can do about that also)

What if i do the calculations using a function on a form's event?

 

by: nico5038Posted on 2008-07-20 at 02:23:19ID: 22045077

As long as it's a simple calculation harfang's solution will work, however the calculated field can't be updated for obvious reasons. t will however reflect a change to the qty or price.

GroupBy queries with a Sum() or other function however won't allow changes.

You can always set the field properties to lock it for update and to be skipped when tabbing.

Nic;o)

 

by: harfangPosted on 2008-07-20 at 07:38:09ID: 22045935

Ah, I see. As Nico implied [hi, btw!], you can edit data in a query. As a matter of fact, that is the only way to edit data comfortably (and the only way to edit the table "directly" is to do so from code!).

When you create a form based on, say, Table1, Access creates a very simple select query for you, and uses that. Something like:

    SELECT * FROM Table1;

Instead, you will use something like this (using the same expression as above):

    SELECT Table1.*, Quantity * UnitPrice As Total FROM Table1;

Try it and watch the field 'Total' being updated dynamically. As it turns out, it even looks much better in datasheet view, because the column is refreshed together with the data fields, while expressions on the form are processed in a second pass (you can see the column being filled after the others).

> What if i do the calculations using a function on a form's event?

Then there is absolutely no way to sort, not even through code. This happens in a third pass, and you also do not have an event called Form_Redraw() or something like that, to perform calculations on the record being displayed rather than the current record.

(°v°)

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