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MS Access VBA Runtime Error 438 After Installing Windows XP Patches

Asked by: ensermo

Dear VBA Programmers and Windows System Admins,

We have a MS Access 2003 Database that has some code in it.
This database/code has always worked without problems.
But recently the whole database gets errors.

Run-Time Error #438:
Object doesn't support this property or method

Even if I comment the "simple" code out It gets errors somewhere else and we have to kill the application.

After searching and testing I found out that removing these two Windows Updates makes the database work again.

KB958687
KB960715

This is a "band aid" solution. The organisation has thousands of PC's and don't want to exclude PC's from being updated. They want a permanent solution.

I am an OK programmer but haven't programmed for quite some time.

So I would like some help to solve this problem.

How can I
1. Install this update on ALL PC's and
2. Let the code work again?

Do others have this problem? I assume I am not the only VBA programmer that had this problem right?

All help is appreciated!

Public Const lngBackColorInputEnabled As Long = 16777215
Public Const lngBackColorInputDisabled As Long = 14870247
 
Public Sub SetColorEnabled(ctlForInput As Access.Control _
                            , ByVal v_blnEnabled As Boolean)
 
    If ctlForInput.ControlType = acOptionButton Then Exit Sub
    
    If v_blnEnabled Then
        With ctlForInput
            .BackColor = lngBackColorInputEnabled
        End With
    Else
        With ctlForInput
            .BackColor = lngBackColorInputDisabled
        End With
    End If
    
    On Error GoTo 0
    
End Sub

                                  
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2009-03-12 at 03:20:46ID24223160
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WSUS runtime error VBA MS ACCESS

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Windows 2003 Server

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Answers

 

by: LSMConsultingPosted on 2009-03-12 at 03:42:43ID: 23866659

Does this happen on ALL your machines running this database?

The KB articles you reference involve the SMB service, and an update to the ActiveX control engine specifically regarding two controls ... unless you're using those controls, they should have no effect on you.

The first thing to do would be to insure that you don't have a corrupt database. Make a backup of the db, then click Tools - Compact and Repair.

Open the VBA Editor, click Tools - References. Are any marked as MISSING? If so, then you need to fix this issue - either find and reference the correct files on the machine, or install the necessary programs.

Again open the Tools - References dialog, uncheck any of your references (note the name and location of this reference), close and reopen the dialog, and then recheck that reference. This forces Access to rebuild your references.

Still in the VBA Editor, click Debug - Compile and fix any errors you may find.

Finally, do a Compact and Repair again.

For the record, I haven't heard of anyone experiencing issues after installing those two updates. Also, the second indicates that it will be added to a Service Pack, so I'd assume you should get this fixed before then.

 

by: ensermoPosted on 2009-03-12 at 04:20:34ID: 23866937

There is a frontend and a backend database.

The frontend database is installed on a couple of machines.

You open the frontend, a form opens with a list box, the list box is created by a query.
You can double click on an item and it opens fine.

As SOON as the updates are installed and you open the frontend database and database and click on an item you get the error.

Then you uninstall the updates. Open the frontend database and it works again.

I tested it on XP VM machine and on another (offsite) machine. Same problem.

I already did the fix and repair database.

The references I have in MVB -> Tools ->References Are
- Visual Basic for Applications (c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\VBA\VBA6\VBE6.DLL)
- Microsoft Access 11.0 Object Library (C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE11\MSACC.OLB)
- OLE Automation (c:\windows\system32\STDOLE2.TLB)
- Microsoft FlexGrid Control 6.0 (SP6) (c:\windows\system32\MSFLXGRD.OCX)
- Microsoft Common Dialog Control 6.0 (SP6)  (c:\windows\system32\COMDLG32.OCX)
- Microsoft Active X Data Objects 2.8 Library (c:\Program Files\Common Files\System\ado\msado15.dll)

 

by: LSMConsultingPosted on 2009-03-15 at 14:42:03ID: 23893309

Ultimately your issue is the MSFLXGRD.OCX, which is NOT supported in the Access environment. I realize it's been working for some time, but unfortunately that's just simple luck on your part. There are a couple of controls that are supported in the Access environment (like the DataGrid, for example, assuming you have the correct edition of the Access Developer pack), and there are some 3rd party grid controls that work in Access (the Janus GridEX is one that I use).

Unfortunately, in order for your app to work reliably you'll need to replace the FlexGrid with something that is compatible with Access.

I'd also get rid of the COMDLG32.OCX control ... those can be troublesome as well.

 

by: ensermoPosted on 2009-03-16 at 01:55:59ID: 23895604

Really?! OMG..There are multiple forms that are designed around this control!
When I programmed/modified the database around three years ago I had to do this on someone elses basic design. He/She created all the forms with this Grid. They have all the "developers packages and licences" because this was the only way to edit the Grid.
Are you sure there is no workaround?
Why would the update from MS mess up the OCX component? This file doesn't change.

Any idea what is the "Access 2003" compatible component similar to this Grid? (Thus one I could use to replace this Grid if there is no workaround?)

 

by: LSMConsultingPosted on 2009-03-16 at 03:58:13ID: 23896285

MS has released a fix for the FlexGrid, but AFAIK this is NOT a supported Access control. However the link below lists a FlxGrd for VB, OfficeXP and Office 2003.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932349

This seems to fix similar problems as you're having.

Still - you're using an unsupported control in Access, and as times moves on (and MS drops support for these sorts of things through their normal support lifecycle) you'll find more and more troubles with them. I can't tell you how often we see people here on EE using a non-supported control, and when pointed out to them their response is always "it works for me" ...

 

by: ensermoPosted on 2009-04-09 at 04:54:15ID: 24106266

The problem had something to do with a KillBit update for Internet Explorer.
I was able to solve this by downloading the VB6 SP6 Cumulative Update (KB957924)
And using another version of msflxgrd.ocx (with regsvr commands)
But like you said. There is no guarantee this will allways keep working.

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