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World of Warcraft FPS boost needed
Tags: fps, wow, warcraft, world
I have an issue in World of Warcraft where i can't go above 60fps.  I know that my computer is plenty powerful enough to reach 100's of FPS because of testing in other games.  It is very possible that I just don't have it all setup correctly - which i wouldn't doubt.  My background is in network topology, not gaming rigs (not anymore at least).

I own a Dell Dimension XPS 600 - about 1 year old.  I have (2) nVidia 7800 GTX 256mb video cards that are running (2) Dell 2001(2001 is the model #) 21" monitors.  I am not currently running SLI, but have that option.  So, the two video cards are in the system, and i have both monitors plugged into the top video card.

For WoW, i run at 1600 x 1200 in Windowed Mode, but maximized.  This way i can have the game take up one of my monitors, and have whatever else open on the other monitor and i can drag my mouse out of the game and use whatever else i have open without the game minmizing.

I run with full options - and normally get around 50fps when out in the world.  In AQ40 or Naxx i get around 15 (on avg) and in some parts of those instances (and other instances as well) i drop to around 5fps.  I've done all the "easy" things to increase FPS like removing names, turning down spell detail, and have taken down a lot of the other settings as well just to test for an increase in FPS.  

So my question is: Are there any hardware options i should be messing with to increase FPS?  Should i always use SLI for the boost in FPS?  Can i use SLI and still use both monitors while playing?

I'll clarify whatever I need to, just ask.  Thanks guys.
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12.26.2006 at 10:54AM PST, ID: 18199146
Windowed mode is slower than full screen mode - you may want to compare them.  If you have all the options enabled, try turning down or disabling Anisotropic Filtering and Anti-Aliasing, because these are the heaviest load on the video card.
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12.26.2006 at 12:46PM PST, ID: 18199633
Ah... this was supposed to go to the gaming area... help?   :)
 
12.26.2006 at 01:04PM PST, ID: 18199684

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Not much to suggest with hardware - even switching to SLi won't help you increasing FPS (Blizzard still don't support this even in Burning Crusade!)
However reconfiguring so you are just running the one monitor will produce your single biggest hardware performance increase.

Assume you are playing a DPS class - Healer?

Best move would be to kill any unnecessary mods

For raiding maybe just leave CT Raid Assist  & KTM up, for healing just CT Mod

Also any additional essential class mods.  If you are using Auctioneer turn this off as well.

For res, settings as low as you can manage.  Leave names on as this makes little difference to FPS and will be essential for raiding.  If you want to get names off the screen then just switch of the monster/NPC names.

If you have any unused RAM you could allocated this to Mod memory and up this to around 200MB


TBH For the AQ40 "Depression" room 5-15 FPS is pretty good there are so many NPCs and the respawns are so fast that this and the BWL Suppresion Room are really the ultimate tests of FPS for WoW boxes

If you want to play with overclocking I still don't think you will see any great improvement.

(ps this Q appears in the Gaming and Hardware Zones and responses can be seen in both)
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12.26.2006 at 01:55PM PST, ID: 18199919
Masqueraid ~

I'll give a bit more info.  I play hunter mainly, lock second, and MT for 20 mans, and OT for 40 mans.  I have 2gigs of RAM, and currently have 350mb  of RAM allocated to mods.  My mods run around 30mb - mostly Ace2 based mods.  No auctioneer, or database driven mods except SW Stats, which i clean out every morning.

I like the game to look incredible, as long as I can play... so the higher the settings, the better for me.  I hate to drop them when i don't absolutely need to.  I guess i figured that having a 7800gtx would be more than enough to run the game full blown without issues... i'm finding out I was incorrect.  
 
12.26.2006 at 02:05PM PST, ID: 18199968

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Guess so :(
On a Dual Core 7900GTX and AQ40 will slow to about 8-10FPS for that one room, sadly sometimes for a big raid in a complex dungeon it's worth compromising on resolution at the outset.
 
12.26.2006 at 02:24PM PST, ID: 18200068
I'll do some tests tonight - and let you know what i find.

I will wait a couple days for other responses as well before accepting an answer.

Thanks for input.
 
12.26.2006 at 03:39PM PST, ID: 18200316
 
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12.26.2006 at 03:42PM PST, ID: 18200325
CSS has a similiar frame rate limiter. Also you could search for the exact script as I am not famaliar with the game
 
12.26.2006 at 04:15PM PST, ID: 18200418
What is the link for specifically?  I'll check out the 60fps vs 100fps cap tonight as well.  Thank you.
 
12.26.2006 at 04:17PM PST, ID: 18200427
it was supposed to contain a fix for the 60 to 100 fps. Might be better off finding a script then just add it to the console.
 
12.26.2006 at 07:15PM PST, ID: 18200895
TheJabster,

I'll move this to the Games TA, since it's evident you don't have a hardware problem, but a game configuration problem.

Callandor
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01.02.2007 at 10:26AM PST, ID: 18229593
As i knew already that full screen was faster than windowed, i was hoping to find out something to change with my hardware so that playing in windowed mode (maximized) would be faster.  

Thanks for the input guys.
 
01.08.2007 at 10:53AM PST, ID: 18269247
It was my understanding that Movies run at 30 FPS and the human eye cannot really distiguish
anything over 30-40 FPS.. I'm wondering if you are knocking you head against the wall to go from
50 to 100 FPS and then say.. I don't notice ANY difference!?
 
01.08.2007 at 07:44PM PST, ID: 18272970
Well i want to make sure that I am getting the most out of what i have.  I'm not sure about your statement being true or not, but i want to make sure that my hardware is performing at it's max capabilities.  
 
 
10.12.2007 at 07:17AM PDT, ID: 20065541
Higher FPS usually has a effect on the latency on any game also. If you play a FPS game online and notice a ping of let's say 80 on high settings. You go and switch to the lowest settings with a higher FPS, I bet your latency will be a heck lot better. I also notice the average gamer puts no effort into the optimization of there services, I suggest closing out anything that isn't needed to run and maybe find a modded INF for your video card that is optimized.
 
 
10.29.2007 at 10:22AM PDT, ID: 20171347
"It was my understanding that Movies run at 30 FPS and the human eye cannot really distiguish
anything over 30-40 FPS."

Not so. Television uses motion blur technology so 30FPS seems smooth.  I've been playing FPS games for years and you can definatley tell the difference.

The issue is WoW FPS is tied to your desktop refresh rate, similar to Call of Duty and Medal of Honor's "com_maxfps" setting defaulting to the same as desktop refresh rate.  In Call of duty and medal of honor, you could always adjust the variable, "com_maxfps 500" for example.  If you can't get above 60fps, your desktop refresh rate is probably set to 60.  Try adjusting that to a higher refresh and see if your WoW FPS doesn't jump to match it.
 
 
11.28.2007 at 07:57PM PST, ID: 20371250
mess around with your graphic card settings, that usually helps me :)
 
 
11.28.2007 at 07:58PM PST, ID: 20371254
mess around with your graphic card settings, that usually helps me :)

 
 
01.07.2008 at 04:07AM PST, ID: 20598399
Have you tried disabling V_Sync in the Graphics options?
 
 
02.19.2008 at 07:06AM PST, ID: 20928950
As mentioned above - disabling V_Sync removed the 60fps cap for me.  You may experience graphical tearing however.
 
 
03.03.2008 at 04:03PM PST, ID: 21037061
You could also try a different video card. I just got the Geforce 9600GT SSC version. It can run FULL anything. Maxed everything. Including with programs such as nvtweaker and nvtray maxed out. Even have it set for 16s anti-alias. I am running a 1.80ghz core duo from intel. Running through the primetime at Ironforge doesn't even pose a problem, not even a shutter, and one of the most graphically drawn out items is things like smoke effects. I noticed on my old card that mounts required alot of processor/graphics power to display without lag. Now with the new card but same computer, same setup... I get anywhere from 60-80fps and when it's solid... it maters most. Bouning to 100fps isn't anything special if it isn't consistant.

 
 
 
04.11.2008 at 06:31AM PDT, ID: 21334039
keep all your settings up

disable smooth mouse

disable v-synch

if that doesnt do it, look at some different drivers like omega drivers (depending on your chipset)
 
 
04.11.2008 at 08:32AM PDT, ID: 21335210
Holy lord!!  I need to use spell check.
 
 
 
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