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was there ever a man on the moon
I asked this same question a month ago in the misc topic area and I was amazed at the results.....
Though we could not decide on an out come to the question and so I decided to ask it again.....
Here is the previous question https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21091880/Was-there-ever-a-man-on-the-moon.html
So the question...... was there ever a man on the moon ????
now we all know that the photos are fake, there was a conspiracy, van allen belt that surrounds the earth..... etc
I did a little bid further research on this and I would like some experts to assist me in the facts and research.
PS: please note that I will keep the question open for longer this time......
Regards
Though we could not decide on an out come to the question and so I decided to ask it again.....
Here is the previous question https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/21091880/Was-there-ever-a-man-on-the-moon.html
So the question...... was there ever a man on the moon ????
now we all know that the photos are fake, there was a conspiracy, van allen belt that surrounds the earth..... etc
I did a little bid further research on this and I would like some experts to assist me in the facts and research.
PS: please note that I will keep the question open for longer this time......
Regards
ozo
They left laser reflectors there which can be detected through telescopes.
Do I exist? My photos can be faked and may be I am a robot all other call "you" to make it feel a human... paranoid is for free, take as much as you want!
Hmm, well, you have a choice:
(1) You can believe the word of thousands of astronauts, scientists, engineers, journalists, plus the 1000's of pictures, video, rocks, telemetry, radar.
-or-
(2) You can believe a few crackpots with unconvincing arguments, poor grammar, and no conclusive evidence.
We'll leave the decision up to you.
(1) You can believe the word of thousands of astronauts, scientists, engineers, journalists, plus the 1000's of pictures, video, rocks, telemetry, radar.
-or-
(2) You can believe a few crackpots with unconvincing arguments, poor grammar, and no conclusive evidence.
We'll leave the decision up to you.
I concur with the others. I have never understood this Van Allen belt rubbish. Geo-sync satelitte orbits are above these, so it would be impossible to watch TV every night.
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Well I did not say that there were no space shuttle out in space ...... but even Nasa said that the van allen belt will kill people if thy would pass thru it ....... now the van allenbelt is aprox +- 16000 km above the ozone layer ..... so the space ships that went into the space with people on would be beneath the van allen belt and the satelites is also beneath the van allen belt........ but the moon are outsite of the van allen belt ....... there might have been a space ship on the moon but I don't think that there were ever a man on the moon ............
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Did%20we%20land%20on%20the%20Moon.htm
The first link was noted a couple times in the earlier question.
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Did%20we%20land%20on%20the%20Moon.htm
The first link was noted a couple times in the earlier question.
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I read thru these websites
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Did%20we%20land%20on%20the%20Moon.htm
I found the first on totally offensive and would disrecard it as a person speaking like that I will not listen to...... anyway I am starting to think that there were actually a man on the moon .......
ok but tell me someone...... what is the leathal dose of radiation that a human can get before dying and for how long can one survive in this radiation belt ???
just looked at all of the photos and stuff and well ...... all that I can say about it is ...well bad photography or well it were a long time ago ..... so all of these clitches and stuff must probably be from the technology
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Did%20we%20land%20on%20the%20Moon.htm
I found the first on totally offensive and would disrecard it as a person speaking like that I will not listen to...... anyway I am starting to think that there were actually a man on the moon .......
ok but tell me someone...... what is the leathal dose of radiation that a human can get before dying and for how long can one survive in this radiation belt ???
just looked at all of the photos and stuff and well ...... all that I can say about it is ...well bad photography or well it were a long time ago ..... so all of these clitches and stuff must probably be from the technology
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>>But not the ones which went to Mars, Jupiter
Why then did no one go to Mars and Jupiter yet ???
leoahmad
Well that is a good point .....
why wern't there people on the moon again ???
certainly technology advanced for more than 30 years ..... I would think that if there were a man on the moon 30 years ago.... then in 30 years time thy should have already made commercial flights to the moon and back....
this can tell me only one thing and that is that people are to scared to go into space ......
then why is the people to scared to go into space ???? only reason wha I can think of is the radiation .....
Why then did no one go to Mars and Jupiter yet ???
leoahmad
Well that is a good point .....
why wern't there people on the moon again ???
certainly technology advanced for more than 30 years ..... I would think that if there were a man on the moon 30 years ago.... then in 30 years time thy should have already made commercial flights to the moon and back....
this can tell me only one thing and that is that people are to scared to go into space ......
then why is the people to scared to go into space ???? only reason wha I can think of is the radiation .....
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I thank each one for there contributions
Evarest.... well I just accepted it to get the awnser closed .....
I actually splitted the points for each guy that helped in the contribution
well the more I think about all of the facts the more I think that we didn't get there
but still hope someone can give me good enough reason to believe other wise
aspecially the psot of Evarest.....
thanx all you guys
Evarest.... well I just accepted it to get the awnser closed .....
I actually splitted the points for each guy that helped in the contribution
well the more I think about all of the facts the more I think that we didn't get there
but still hope someone can give me good enough reason to believe other wise
aspecially the psot of Evarest.....
thanx all you guys
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sergeis I was under the understanding that the Russians had landed 3 crafts 1 of which was destroyed. Were did you find that they did not send up the crafts.
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hmmmm .... very interisting.....
This site almost changed my mind http://www.doiv.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hoax.htm
but there is still something wrong with the whole thing .....
one thing I did notice in all of the photos of the moon is that the ground or surface is rocky but in the ones that are claimed to be fake the surface are smooth ........
Do any one know from witch metal the shuttle were made from ??? ......
Do any one know how long the guys were on the moon ????
Do any one know if the shuttle were going to the moon in the direct sunlight or the shadow of the earth ???
well there is a lot of questions that I still can ask ...... but won't bother if the guys don't want to help ....
but I must say you guys know your stuff around here .... thats propably why you guys awnser in the Maths/sience topic area ;-)
This site almost changed my mind http://www.doiv.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hoax.htm
but there is still something wrong with the whole thing .....
one thing I did notice in all of the photos of the moon is that the ground or surface is rocky but in the ones that are claimed to be fake the surface are smooth ........
Do any one know from witch metal the shuttle were made from ??? ......
Do any one know how long the guys were on the moon ????
Do any one know if the shuttle were going to the moon in the direct sunlight or the shadow of the earth ???
well there is a lot of questions that I still can ask ...... but won't bother if the guys don't want to help ....
but I must say you guys know your stuff around here .... thats propably why you guys awnser in the Maths/sience topic area ;-)
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So If I understand what I have read here
1. We have physical proof in the form of rocks, and photos and eye witness who watched the take off
2. We have ways to test if a ship landed on the moon and left mirrors
3. We have larges groups who would expose the USA if it was a fate if they had any real proof.
4. We have ways to explain the entire questions that was asked about items that could possibly be questioned.
5. The only items that the people who do not think we did not land on the moon is Personal opinions.
6. We have a group of scientist who are trained to spot errors saying that we went to the moon.
Does this sum it all up?
If so how could anyone beleive we did not go to the moon?
1. We have physical proof in the form of rocks, and photos and eye witness who watched the take off
2. We have ways to test if a ship landed on the moon and left mirrors
3. We have larges groups who would expose the USA if it was a fate if they had any real proof.
4. We have ways to explain the entire questions that was asked about items that could possibly be questioned.
5. The only items that the people who do not think we did not land on the moon is Personal opinions.
6. We have a group of scientist who are trained to spot errors saying that we went to the moon.
Does this sum it all up?
If so how could anyone beleive we did not go to the moon?
Maybe an interesting note about the Van Allen Belts the questionneer first pointed us to :-)
"The probe's [SMART-1] automated star-tracker, which keeps it on course and in the proper attitude, has " failed to provide good attitude information in a few cases," according to an ESA statement. The glitch is related to radiation belts that surround Earth, Racca said. "We are confident that we can solve all the problems of the star tracker by changing parameters in the software," he said"
Read the full article at:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/smart1_route_031028.html
Thus ion-based propulsion, besides just being too slow to travel at first, will not really suite manned flights, if even the hardware gets baked in these radiation belts ;-) (of course, you can first lift off using rocket trusters...)
"If so how could anyone beleive we did not go to the moon?"
A good scientist bases his results on the facts, however, as you stated the facts definately speak in favor of the moon travels. I for one don't question the existence of moon travels, neither the moon walks by the US astronauts...
Cheers!
Evarest
"The probe's [SMART-1] automated star-tracker, which keeps it on course and in the proper attitude, has " failed to provide good attitude information in a few cases," according to an ESA statement. The glitch is related to radiation belts that surround Earth, Racca said. "We are confident that we can solve all the problems of the star tracker by changing parameters in the software," he said"
Read the full article at:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/smart1_route_031028.html
Thus ion-based propulsion, besides just being too slow to travel at first, will not really suite manned flights, if even the hardware gets baked in these radiation belts ;-) (of course, you can first lift off using rocket trusters...)
"If so how could anyone beleive we did not go to the moon?"
A good scientist bases his results on the facts, however, as you stated the facts definately speak in favor of the moon travels. I for one don't question the existence of moon travels, neither the moon walks by the US astronauts...
Cheers!
Evarest
....lock a poor fool in a small room with the Internet & no friends and you get a chronic conspiracy theorist. Can you imagine the incredible number of people who would have to be involved & agreeable to the idea to fake a moon landing?? Not to mention the other countries who tracked it. One year we opened up the mental hospitals and it was a big mistake.
Seek help.
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Thanks guys for all of your effort......
well It seems like we did goto the moon..... though there are some dodgy parts in this area ......
but I can sit and debare over this for a long time but as you can see I am a bit busy.......
but thanks for all of the info and the intresting points
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Rudi
well It seems like we did goto the moon..... though there are some dodgy parts in this area ......
but I can sit and debare over this for a long time but as you can see I am a bit busy.......
but thanks for all of the info and the intresting points
Regards
Rudi
>> though there are some dodgy parts in this area
I fail to understand yopu silly Americans.
You invade Iraq at the drop of a hat, cause untold misery and death, and you've created hatred all over the world. But the greatest single technical achievement of which you should be proud, gets subjected to all sorts of silly conspiracy theories.
Sheesh!
I fail to understand yopu silly Americans.
You invade Iraq at the drop of a hat, cause untold misery and death, and you've created hatred all over the world. But the greatest single technical achievement of which you should be proud, gets subjected to all sorts of silly conspiracy theories.
Sheesh!
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uhm ...... im not american boet......
"my first computer were a Spectrum"
Yup, that ties in. In USA they were marketed as Timex not Spectrum.
A Brit, and one with bad grammar to boot.
Yup, that ties in. In USA they were marketed as Timex not Spectrum.
A Brit, and one with bad grammar to boot.
>>uhm ...... im not american boet......
My mistake, but you did write "well It seems like we did goto the moon..... ".
My mistake, but you did write "well It seems like we did goto the moon..... ".
"We came in peace for all mankind"
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no problem ;-)
I meant "we" as in humans
I meant "we" as in humans