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AOL internet connection sharing

Asked by: kwaoc

Hi guys,

For many hours today I have been trying to share my aol connection with my laptop.

I bought a pci wireless card for my desktop and my laptop has one built in.

What I wanted to do was to share the internet connection between the two machines.

I managed to get it set up in a way that I could share files but after many failed hours I couldnt get the internet working on my laptop.

Can anyone walk me through what I need to do to get it working... Is the fact I am using AOL causing the problem?

I know I would have to have the desktop pc on all the time to have internet access on the laptop, but I just cant get it working!! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I was not wanting to use a router as I had the wireless PCI card and thought I could share it that way.

I look forward to your help and thanks a million in advance.

Regards,
Kwaoc



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2006-01-29 at 16:05:35ID21714781
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Answers

 

by: RobWillPosted on 2006-01-29 at 16:40:26ID: 15820187

Firstly, I would get a router and save yourself a lot of headaches, especially where you are using wireless. However you can configure it to work.

The machine now connected to AOL is the Host machine,  and should only have 2 network connections, any others should be disabled. I assume you have a wired connection to the AOL connection and the PCI wireless connection. To share the connection you must use the ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) wizard, you cannot configure it manually. Right click on the AOL connection and under advanced there is an option to allow others to share this internet connection. Enable that and it will automatically configure the other connection, your wireless, to have a fixed IP of 192.168.0.1 Then the Client computer, the laptop, needs to be configured using DHCP (get an IP address and DNS settings automatically). Both wireless devices need to be configured to make an ADHoc wireless connection.

Two good sites explaining the details of setting this up can be found below. The second includes a video. Doing so with wireless makes it more difficult.
http://www.petri.co.il/configuring_ics_on_windows_xp.htm

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306126&sd=tech

XP also has a good explanation under Start | Help & Support | Networking and the Web | Networking | Internet Connections | Internet Connection Sharing Services
Good luck.

 

by: kwaocPosted on 2006-01-29 at 16:45:33ID: 15820219

Hi RobWIll,

Thanks for that.

I got as far as sharing internet connection and the wireless card started to acquire a netword identitiy, but an error came up: Internet connection sharing cannot be enabled. A LAN connectionis already configured with the IP address that is required for automatic IP addressing...

I have an Internet gateway icon in netowrk settings tha wont let me delete it...

Cheers for the help,

Kwaoc

 

by: RobWillPosted on 2006-01-29 at 17:08:04ID: 15820351

>>"I  have an Internet gateway icon in netowrk settings tha wont let me delete it..."
So in Network connections you have ??
1) the connection to AOL (out of curiosity what type of connection is this USB, Ethernet, or wireless)
2) the PCI wireless
3) Internet gateway

assuming the Internet gateway is not your AOL, when you right click on it or the AOL connection do they show it is a "bridge". If so you may have to disconnect/delete the bridge first.

 

by: kwaocPosted on 2006-01-29 at 17:41:16ID: 15820534

In network connections i have:
Internet Gateway: status connected
Lan or High Speed Internet there is:
1394 Connection: Connected
Local Area Connection: Connected
Wireless network connection: Disabled.
All have been set to obtain IP automatically.

The Local Area connection has the following details:
IP 192.168.0.8
255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.0.1 (router)

I am not actually usign AOL connection now as I am home and using my own modem but the AOL was a USB modem and I am still having exactly the same probs trying to connect the laptop through my desktop here at home.

There is nothing regarding bridges there.
Thanks,
Kwaoc

 

by: RobWillPosted on 2006-01-29 at 18:23:35ID: 15820740

>>"default gateway 192.168.0.1 (router)"
Are you saying you have a router?

If you are moving the computer to multiple Internet connections you are going to find this to be a nightmare. ICS works well but it is very fussy as to the conditions under which it works. #1 being all unused connections must be totally disabled. You have quite a few. If you move between locations you will have to install uninstall, enable and disable....not fun. A router is $30, and using DHCP, all you have to do is turn on the computer.

If you want to pursue you will have to stop all connections from obtaining an address automatically, except the wireless and Internet connection, and disable all but the connection you are using for the Internet and the wireless. Then run the ICS wizard. I have seen it not work on computers even where there was a 3rd connection that was disabled.

 

by: kwaocPosted on 2006-01-30 at 01:30:14ID: 15822084

I have a router at home, yes. But saying that the AOL modem doesnt act as a router.

It will be just one PC desktop machine and one laptop. The pc will act as the host.

SHould I assign ip addresses to each machine then? WHat about the gateway settings?


Regards,
Kwaoc

 

by: RobWillPosted on 2006-01-30 at 06:16:02ID: 15823656

Then I assume the 192.168.0.1 is the Internet connection ?
How are you connected to the Internet? Which connection and what kind of device is it?

-One of the catches with ICS is it will only set the second adapter to IP 192.168.0.1 Therefore you will first have to change the existing 192.168.0.1 device to something else.
-The Internet Gateway device is fine, that is a virtual device created by ICS.
-The 1394 connection is a firewire connection and can be ignored or disabled. Looks like you are using it for something if it hows connected.
-You mention the wireless device is disabled. That needs to be enabled to to make your connection to the laptop, but do not manually configure it. ICS will do that, but cannot until the other 192.168.0.1 device is removed.

>>"SHould I assign ip addresses to each machine then? WHat about the gateway settings?"
You cannot manually configure the host machine. You must let ICS do that. You can manually configure the client machine but ICS is designed to let you use DHCP (obtain connection information automatically)

An excellent article explaining exactly what you are trying to do. Perhaps it will help:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_02april08.mspx

 

by: kwaocPosted on 2006-01-30 at 06:28:17ID: 15823763

if i bought a router would this solve all my problems?
I seen that tutorial before but still couldnt get it to work!!

The AOL modem is usb so If i got a wireless router should it all be ok? Cheers
Kwaoc

 

by: RobWillPosted on 2006-01-30 at 07:12:41ID: 15824109

A wireless router is your best bet. Simple and a much more dependable connection. However, does your AOL modem only have a USB connection? If so make sure the router does as well. Not many routers have the USB option, but there are some. If possible stick with one of the readily available units such as Linksys or D-Link and better or easier to configure if it is the same make as your wireless card, though not necessary.
Good luck.

 

by: namundayPosted on 2006-02-20 at 10:31:52ID: 16002225

are you still having problems with this scenario?

 

by: kwaocPosted on 2006-02-22 at 10:07:30ID: 16021597

Hi,
Yeah the problem is still there. The issue could be because of AOL having that interface where you have to log in ot use the internet every time, rather than it just being there when you turn on your machine.

I would rather not have to buy a router but it looks like I will have to. I fear I may get the same issues with the logging in etc.


Regards,
Kwaoc

 

by: namundayPosted on 2006-02-22 at 10:13:54ID: 16021678

before i upgraded to broadband i was able to share an aol dial up connection over a network using a proxy server. Take a look at proxy+ here http://www.proxyplus.cz/

However, it was only possible to use internet explorer on the other machine and not log into the aol software. the only way that you can do that is to use a router. I would suggest getting something from the manufacturer of your pci card.

If you need more advice just post back and let us know

 

by: kwaocPosted on 2006-02-22 at 10:45:56ID: 16021995

hi,
I am thinking that I will probably have to get a router so. I am using a belkin wireless network card in the desktop and the inbuilt wireless network card in the laptop. SHould i get a belkin router too??


 I would appreciate it if you could let me know how you went about setting it up through the router.

Thanks,

Kwaoc

 

by: namundayPosted on 2006-02-22 at 10:57:53ID: 16022120

Hi Kwaoc

Given a choice when planning a new wirless network I would not usually choose Belkin but that is maninly because I prefer Linksys. That is not to say that Belkin products are no good, you don't get to be as big as they are because produce rubbish product (not Micro$oft comment please!). In your case though I would stick with Belkin. I would go with something like this http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=16453663152&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=79070

As for setting up your network the first thing in to enter in the details from your ISP. You will not usually have to play around with too much to get the internet connection working (I am basing this on the UK as I believe you are in Ireland correct?) and so you should quickly get a stable connection light. After that I would disable all the security and start configuring the network. Everything should be pretty easy if you read through the manuals but if you come back when you have the equipment and model numbers i can advise you more specifically

Good Luck
Nick

 

by: RobWillPosted on 2006-02-22 at 11:29:43ID: 16022481

Thanks kwaoc,
--Rob

ps- I would agree, go Belkin. Wireless has enough kwirks. Sticking with similar makes, NIC and router, makes life a little simpler.

 

by: kwaocPosted on 2006-02-22 at 11:32:52ID: 16022516

Thank you Rob and Nick, both excellent help.



Have a good one,


Kwaoc

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