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ATT DSL dropping signal on two different lines for one location

Asked by: FASTECHS

We have a really wierd issue going on at a client location that involves a DSL connection that has pretty much boggled our minds here. Here is a recap:

Our original DSL line was having issues where it would drop connection - not entirely, as the lights would still be on, but there would be a sort of freeze on the line where no web pages could be pulled or the server connected to from across the net. A quick reset of the modem or waiting 5-7 mins would fix this.

We thought that it could have been viruses, trojans, or some poorly capped lines, or even licensing issues on our 2003 server, but all those areas were tackled and we still had the issue. After much haggling with ATT, they came out and installed one brand new line for DSL use only. This line DOES NOT have any phones or fax connected to it - it is strictly for internet usage.

They gave us a new modem to use, along with a new PPPoE logon name and pass, but we kept the old modem in use (same models both old and new) due to some firewall settings we couldnt change on the new one. Nonetheless, the new line still experiences this drop! There is a neighboring office in the complex that has DSL from ATT but it works just fine.

We have narrowed this connection drop to an ATT issue as nothing inside the network is having issues. Connections to the server within the LAN stays up and running when the modem signal goes down. Just so you know, this location uses a static IP for their DSL. THe modem used is the newest one from ATT, the 2WIRE 4 port wireless gateway, the HG series. This office is on their THIRD Modem already, so we highly doubt its a bad modem we are dealing with.

We are at a point where suggesting Comcast cable internet is the only solution, as anything mixing internet and phone lines at this office is becoming taboo. Can anyone recommend any other areas to check before we call it quits on this 2 month ordeal with ATT DSL?

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2007-06-14 at 16:10:48ID22635281
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DSL Lines / Cable Internet

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Answers

 

by: IanThPosted on 2007-06-15 at 03:23:51ID: 19290462

how long from your local exchange are you?

Do you know if your neighboring office is on the same exchange?

 

by: FASTECHSPosted on 2007-06-15 at 07:06:13ID: 19291947

I couldn't tell you how far away the office is from the LE, but the office just next door has ATT DSL and it has been working fine for years. I'd be surprised if we're past the distance limit and they are not, being only 20 feet away from us.

 

by: IanThPosted on 2007-06-15 at 13:48:29ID: 19295218

that does not really mean anything you see. Adsl line length is usually not a straight line between you and your le on the other hand your neighbour could have a straighter line of sight to the le so his could be say 3.5km and yours could be 5.2km by going round the houses a bit. Does your router say how far as mine does in the adsl status

Also post here your adsl status as these could point to the problem

SNR (Signal-to-Noise-Ratio) margin    14.3  22.0   dB    
Line attenuation    27.1  17.5   dB    
Errored seconds    1157  206    
Loss of signal    2  2    
Loss of frame    0  0    
CRC errors    39  97    
Data rate  8064 576   kbps    
DSLAM    (2 km) TEXAS INSTRUMENTS  
 
This is mine

the major things are SNR and line attenuation    

 

by: FASTECHSPosted on 2007-06-16 at 08:23:23ID: 19298467

The new line has only dropped once since it was installed a few days ago and has been under heavy usage by the office staff. I think all signs look good. THanks for all the help.

I believe the server in the office was shut down for the weekend so I cannot connect to it to check modem logs.

 

by: publicPosted on 2007-06-18 at 18:28:41ID: 19312557

Could be bad interanl wire. Always test at the NID box and post the line statistics.

 

by: FASTECHSPosted on 2007-07-09 at 15:48:26ID: 19449427

Since posting this issue, the DSL has been pretty solid. However, after viewing the modem log below we are a little worried. Could some post and tell us if this log looks normal? It shows the modem's detailed activity for the last week.

http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07282/cpicpa_dsl_07092007.jpg

Any help is appreciated. The users at this office have experienced two brief DSL outages since we last spoke a week ago.

 

by: FASTECHSPosted on 2007-07-10 at 12:44:55ID: 19457079

Modem log from today after internet supposedly dropped again:

http://xs117.xs.to/xs117/07282/cpicpa_log2.jpg

 

by: FASTECHSPosted on 2007-07-13 at 07:12:43ID: 19481037

 

by: publicPosted on 2007-07-23 at 10:22:04ID: 19549427

More usefull statistics are of the form:
DSL Statistics:
     Type               : ALC MULTI-MODE CP
     Datapump HW Rev    : ff
     Datapump FW Rev    : 3.9.16
     Datapump Vendor ID : ffff
     Current Status     : LINK UP
     Operating Mode     : G.DMT
     Data Path          : Fast
                           Downstream    Upstream
     Current Rate  :          3008 Kbps      512 Kbps
     Maximum Rate  :          8594 Kbps      948 Kbps
     Noise Margin  :          18.0 dB       16.0 dB
     Attenuation   :          23.0 dB       18.0 dB
     Out Power     :          13.0 dB        8.5 dB

For general monitoring try pingplotter. Configure tracing to a dns server or other frequently accessed site.

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